Hard News: Why we thought what we thought
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Amanda Wreckonwith, in reply to
I agree he is sometimes a dickwad but at least he's now a sober one.
We'll done Matthew on giving up the booze.
I think you'll find us lefties are more accepting of any personal demons than your chosen leader seems to be. -
I have no recall of being born on Earth. So I presume I was born on Mars unless proven otherwise.
I have no recall of writing that either. So I presume it to be a forgery unless proven otherwise. -
Any claim that this sentence is a forgery is a forgery.
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The thlot pickens! An interesting little item on stuff reports that the purchaser of Hotchin's monument to self-regard on Paratai Drive is the NZ CEO of Orovida, who reputedly has a portrait of John Key hanging in his new abode.
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Colins isn't the Attorney General, but this ugly business does undermine the fabric of our legal system.
A Constitutional crisis in a country without a constitution or firm rules for appointing Judges.
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By the way, I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but a very minor nugget of possible interest:
As we know, 'Rawshark' is the pseudonym of the anonymous e-mail leaker.
In Alan Moore's graphic novel 'Watchmen', one of the vigilantes has the pseudonym 'Rorschach'. At one point in the plot, an anonymous tipster call the police and asks if they want to know where to find Rorschach, which is misheard by the detective on the other end of the phone.
"Raw what? Did you say shark? Raw shark? Why should I want to know where to find Raw shark."
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Minor correction (in the spirit of the times ): the story was on the NZH site and the JK portrait hangs in his boardroom.
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
Hooten shooten What a dickwad.
Hooten. Yeah right. The fan dance on Mandela’s coffin guy.
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Trevor Nicholls, in reply to
the JK portrait hangs in his boardroom
Not an employee, not an executive, but certainly The Great Benefactor.
Perhaps it was auctioned off for one of NZ's leading "charities"? -
nzlemming, in reply to
In Alan Moore’s graphic novel ‘Watchmen’, one of the vigilantes has the pseudonym ‘Rorschach’
Hrrm
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
I am ignorant of the law, but I would have thought that if there was anyone with the resources and legal authority to require the logs from the third party in this (Facebook) for a conversation at a known time and date, it would be the Inspector General of the SIS investigating the leaking of classified documents. In fact, if everyone denies everything, I would say this is a logical step in a thorough investigation.
Good God, David, are you taking the piss? These are strange days indeed, but Public Address is the last place on Earth I expected to read that. Be very careful what you wish for...
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SteveH, in reply to
As we know, ‘Rawshark’ is the pseudonym of the anonymous e-mail leaker.
In Alan Moore’s graphic novel ‘Watchmen’, one of the vigilantes has the pseudonym ‘Rorschach’.
I thought of that too. The wikipeida page for the comic character says "he is introduced as the only remaining active masked vigilante not employed by the government" which seems sort of apropos. But rawshark is also the name of one the tools that makes up the Wireshark network packet analysis suit. So the name could also be a nod toward one of the tools used by the hacker.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
if it’s been mentioned before
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...be careful what you wish for...
Actually what I expressly do not wish is that they just ask the NSA because as a communication between two non-US citizens via an American company the NSA will have a copy.
what I would wish is that, if the defence is that it is a forgery, the investigation use due process and legal powers to obtain the true document from the third party holding it in investigating a criminal matter.
Do I think the governments surveillance powers are overly broad. Yes. Have investigating authorities been able to get warrants to analyse material sitting on servers for a very long time before these new surveillance powers. Yes. Do people committing crimes sometimes forget they are passing their messages through a third party that saves everything? Yes.
Is the amount Facebook and Google know about us a bit creepy? Yes.
I do actually want the rule of law followed here. and followed in an even handed manner.
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Teej,
So, three things: 1. Long time lurker, first time caller: please be gentle. 2. The dirty politics revelations have illustrated, I think, a wider malaise/hubris within this government, which is that convention, process, the Cabinet Manual and all those other things that we take for granted to keep NZ politics clean(ish) and not vitriolic and hyperpartisan like the States, have been merily abandoned: other examples that spring to mind are Paula Bennett blithely exposing individuals' personal privacy for political purposes, Nick Smith thinking nothing of using his ministerial letterhead for similar purposes, the removal of Ecan etc... etc... and 3: it's about now presumably that Collins (and hopefully Key) is busily recognising that metadata is actually kinda intrinsically related to the content it describes, and that its collection and use for investigative purposes is actually something to be concerned about.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
but at least he’s now a sober one. We’ll done Matthew on giving up the booze.
Doesn't change anything tho' nor would I judge him on whether he drinks or not. It's more the crap I think he spouts outta his trap.
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Sacha, in reply to
kia ora.
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The underlying character flaw is millenia old - acting as if the ends always justify the means. Moral grown-ups apply better judgement than that.
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Geoff Lealand, in reply to
Welcome
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Hebe,
Dunno if I’m just getting over-wrought here – this on Key’s blind trust interests is gobs-smacking. That is, if gobs hadn’t already been repeatedly smacked in the past two weeks.
http://www.3news.co.nz/general/pms-stake-in-otago-vineyard-revealed-2010052617 -
nzlemming, in reply to
So, three things: 1. Long time lurker, first time caller: please be gentle.
You fool! Now they know you're here!
Welcome Teej
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Trevor Nicholls, in reply to
PM's Pinot has been around for a few years, so I don't think that's been much of a secret. But the blind trust is evidently only blind in one eye.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
In Alan Moore’s graphic novel ‘Watchmen’, one of the vigilantes has the pseudonym ‘Rorschach’.
I think I can see a pattern here and it ain't no fucking butterfly. More like roadkill.
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Hebe, in reply to
PM’s Pinot has been around for a few years, so I don’t think that’s been much of a secret. But the blind trust is evidently only blind in one eye.
You are right: didn't look at the date: 101 not achieved. As you were.
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We’ll done Matthew [and stuff]
Necessary, reasonable? Public domain?
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