Hard News: We ... WHAT!?
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Thanks for posting this. For completeness, a link to the original transcript at the US State Dept.
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Thanks for pointing this out. It represents a continuation of one of the National Party’s primary foreign policy themes: (Broadly) Do whatever the US says. From Kim Dotcom to suddenly allowing software patents (TPPA foreshadowing BIG time) this IS what they do. I still remember Simon Power and Wayne Mapp slagging Clark / Labour’s refusal to join the invasion of Iraq because it would cost us a free trade agreement with the US. They retracted “by lunchtime”, but the point had been clearly made: If you want the lives of Kiwi service men and women whored for better relations with the United States (and better trade deals) then they are the party you want to vote for. In your extract Key explicitly links the willingness to get into wars with a "high quality" free trade agreement. He's selling dead kiwis again.
As it happens, this aspect of their policy rules them out as worthy of support pretty much forever. I'm amazed anyone with a skerrick of care for their fellow kiwis votes for them at all. Do farmers really want blood money for their milk?
Does it make me angry? Definitely. Most definitely.
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Cecelia, in reply to
I was shocked too after reading it on Twitter and then checking it online.
Was it a kind of Freudian slip? Did someone else really see that line before he spoke it?
I've just ploughed through Nicky Hager's "Other People's Wars" and I'm angry too. Even allowing for a certain degree of bias ...
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One journalist has just told me she thinks Key didn't say "conflicts". Given that that's the official State Department transcript, that would be an interesting situation.
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Struggling to think of another word that could be mistaken for "conflicts".
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Given that that's the official State Department transcript, that would be an interesting situation.
Yeah, if by "interesting" you mean "pretty fucking scary" because weirdly enough you're not the only person on Earth who takes things on US State Department letterhead very seriously indeed.
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Okay. Here’s the clip.
It is NOTHING LIKE THE TRANSCRIPT.
What Key actually says is: " ... we welcome the opportunity to cooperate. In that context... "
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Two nations divided by a common language...
Key's diction can be muddy and galloped at the best of times, but that bit was crystal clear. WTF. Auto-complete??
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Sacha, in reply to
Struggling to think of another word that could be mistaken for "conflicts"
'Cooperate', perhaps?
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The word was context. How ironic.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
WTF. Auto-complete??
Or someone who had a very late night on the diplomatic razzle the night before?
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Ah, so the transcript that isn't a real transcript... much like Hansard can be "corrected" by MPs after the fact (thank you Winston).
Glad to see he hasn't lost the plot that completely.
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Dear Secretary Clinton:
Next time you want us to get involved in a war be a petal and ask first.
Thanking you in advance. Hugs and kisses,
New Zealand.
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Sorry, but there were a fair few gallery journwith the PM on that trip. If he'd actually said it they would've reported it. It's not a comment that would have been overlooked or missed.
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I look forward to the equally warm and well reasoned response from the Taleban to our soldiers.
Thanks a lot to whoever transcribed this...
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I contend that Key's diction isn't a speech impediment but simply his Austro-Jewish Kiwi accent. (just as the way in which many of us pronounce 'six' seems to be derived from the Scottish pronunciation of said number)
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Chinese whispers...
In this case it looks like they got the 'New Zild" translators and reality adjusters involved as well - Now if we could just get a copy of the original speech from the PM's office and compare the State Department transcript side by side...
You'd think the PM's 'people' would give the State Dept 'people' a copy of his speech after the fact, for the record.I'd love to know what the inaudible bits were, and how long they were ...
Key really owes it to the world of diplomacy (and future generations) to improve his diction and to slow down when he talks - it's not like he's some wideboy FX dealer any more, trying to rush through some shonky multi-million dollar deal before the margins change or someone notices the fine print...
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Shall we play at guessing the rest of the inaudibles?
Secretary Clinton and I share the goal of securing a high quality, (inaudible) free trade agreement, would be a significant (inaudible) countries involved, indeed to the region as a whole.
might be
Secretary Clinton and I share the goal of securing a high quality, (anti-democratic) free trade agreement, would be a significant (fuck up for the) countries involved, indeed to the region as a whole.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Key really owes it to the world of diplomacy (and future generations) to improve his diction and to slow down when he talks -
Or, you know, The US State Department could, like, hire some people who were paying attention. Sorry, Ian, but listening to the audio Russell posted I don't see how any reasonable person could say Key's diction was at issue here.
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The cock-up theory of history vindicated! Perhaps the old story about NZ starting WW2 a day early after mistaking the time zones is true after all. I can imagine similar disasters - Blair: "Iraq? No, no, I said I was going down to the Park." Napoleon: "I only said I wanted to meet my Portaloo." Etc.
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Phil Lyth, in reply to
I don't see how any reasonable person could say Key's diction was at issue here
No, not to a New Zild ear. But what if the transcription was being done back in the States by a person who has to contend with hearing English spoken in its many glorious forms from around the world? I would have thought the State Dept would have run the draft transcript passed someone familiar with NZ English.
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Martin Lindberg, in reply to
Secretary Clinton and I share the goal of securing a high quality, (inaudible) free trade agreement, would be a significant (inaudible) countries involved, indeed to the region as a whole.
Secateur Clinton and I share the goal of securing a high quality, twentyfirst century free trade agreement, would be a significant benefit to all countries involved, indeed to the region as a whole.
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What was said
Secretary Clinton and I discussed the broad range of issues in the Asia Pacific region as we look towards the APEC summit in Russia in around 10 days time. New Zealand warmly supports the United States rebalancing towards the Asia Pacific, and we welcome the opportunities to cooperate further. In that context we discussed our ongoing efforts to negotiate alongside a number of other countries a transpacific partnership agreement. Secretary Clinton and I share the goal of securing a high quality, twenty-first century free trade agreement, which would be of significant benefit to all countries involved, indeed to the region as a whole.
Which is not:
Secretary Clinton and I discussed the broad range of issues in the Asia Pacific region as we look towards the APEC summit in Russia in around 10 days time. New Zealand warmly supports the United States rebalancing towards the Asia Pacific, and we welcome the opportunity to cooperate with the U.S. in the next conflicts. We discussed our ongoing (inaudible) along side a number of other countries (inaudible) partnership agreement. Secretary Clinton and I share the goal of securing a high quality, (inaudible) free trade agreement, would be a significant (inaudible) countries involved, indeed to the region as a whole.
It seemed clear to me...
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Cecelia, in reply to
Oh wow!
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