Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: No end of mileage

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  • Michael Fitzgerald,

    Russell - a grave mistake indeed.


    Nobody said -
    "This is an opprtunity for NZ to display it's technological advantages..."

    Is Broad Band :

    a) an essential part of our infrastructure
    b) the group "When the Cats away"
    c) All of the above - very dated and over hyped

    Since May 2007 • 631 posts Report Reply

  • Nobody Important,

    er ... in case it wasn't obvious: I was__ taking the piss __with my justification for going noocular - it's the sort of reasoning one sees in the MSM

    and, following the utube links on pg 12 from jon_knox I also discovered this one
    whilst military grunts aren't noted for their mental fitness I would have thought even an imbecile would know better than to use German deathmetal as the soundtrack for your US Killing Machine vid??? The Nazis would be proud ...

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    er ... in case it wasn't obvious: I was taking the piss with my justification for going noocular - it's the sort of reasoning one sees in the MSM

    Well, Nobody,back in the day nobody was extracting the urine while penning furious editorials about how electricity period was an unspeakable menace to human health, the Model T Ford was a novelty that was never going to catch on, and the printing press? Well, it was just going to lead to the brain death of civilization and give the peasants silly ideas. I think you can fairly criticise the MSM for not exactly showing the highest standards of scientific or statistical literacy, but please let's not encourage media Luddites any more than we do already.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    Model T Ford was a novelty that was never going to catch on

    but unfortunately it did.
    and we ended up with a trashed planet
    a dead-end car culture
    and petrol-heads causing moral panic.

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 645 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Fitzgerald,

    We have always had moral panic.
    It's ultimately not about the youth, it's about the changing perceptions of the old - the bifocals and viagra.
    The denial of aging - like over 30's speaking for the youth of today!
    If 'I' haven't changed, it's must be them - blame the youth (if you can see/catch them).

    Since May 2007 • 631 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    "Unfortunately we can't plan around what we don't have and don't know"

    an oblique reference to rumsfeldian poetry, perhaps?

    **The Unknown**
    As we know,
    There are known knowns.
    There are things we know we know.
    We also know
    There are known unknowns.
    That is to say
    We know there are some things
    We do not know.
    But there are also unknown unknowns,
    The ones we don't know
    We don't know.

    —Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing

    but what we do know, is that we live on a finite planet. and our economic system is predicated on never-ending "growth" (i.e. using up the finite resources at an ever-increasing speed. so unfortunately we are planning around what we don't have--ever-increasing supplies of petroleum and natural gas for transport, agriculture, manufacturing, electricity, etc.
    placing your faith in "unkown" new technology to solve all our energy problems seems about as realistic as, i dunno, a cargo cult? ha

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 645 posts Report Reply

  • Nobody Important,

    I think you can fairly criticise the MSM for not exactly showing the highest standards of scientific or statistical literacy, but please let's not encourage media Luddites any more than we do already.

    I wouldn't dream of it, but let's not also allow the debate be coloured by the usual bogus notions of us needing to compete on the global stage. (arrgh - all those memories of those bogus reasons for a waterfront stadium come flooding back!) This country can't even get it's head around wind farms. We want them, but not anywhere near us, or anywhere that might detract visually from the environment.
    Can't they be painted olive green?

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    Rather than dispensing moral panic and making bogus comparisons with the past, maybe the mayors (who were the focus of RB's original post) shold get to work on something that is a bit closer to their core "mission". Y'know, like prudent urban (and rural) planning.

    Energy availability modelling raises crucial transport issues

    Despite rising alarm about future energy availability, major planning initiatives such as the numerous urban developments around New Zealand have not yet incorporated energy shortage/crisis risks.

    "In 2030 there is an 85% chance that people in New Zealand will have 30% less energy than we have now."

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 645 posts Report Reply

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