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  • Kyle Matthews,

    __Discuss in 500 words or less the poster's rationale for putting forward this question without mentioning his own pro-Labour bias. You have 30 minutes starting now. Eyes down please.__

    Huh?

    It's this new rule that was passed in urgency at 11.58 last night. Whenever you post on a political topic in the world these days, you have to finish your post by putting who you last voted for in brackets.

    Kyle [Green]

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    And the Ralston column is hackneyed, inconsistent, wrong on facts and one of the worst things he's ever written.

    Quite an achievement! He'll be taking on Jane Black next.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Thanks Ben and James. obviously I'm the type that gets strung out over the finer points. Set me off searching for a word emphasizing the similarities, which I found to be 'compare', at least in the dictionary.com thesaurus with this

    emphasizes the similarities between or among things, though not losing sight of the differences; contrast emphasizes the differences

    this really upset me. 'this is as heavy as that?' better qualifies as a comparison than 'this is heavier than that?' ye gods.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard,

    emphasizes the similarities between or among things, though not losing sight of the differences

    It's about looking for patterns among diversity, and seeing when things do the same thing but in different ways. Such as noting that despite their different size, weight and design, all these cars are essentially sports cars, but one achieves sportiness through aerodynamics, one through power, one through having go-faster stripes and a spoiler. That sort of thing.

    So one might look at all the editorials and say that they might all still have the Herald's underlying right-wing agenda, but that the tone is wavering between full-blown support, concerns that they're going too far, and nervousness that they're risking a backlash through being too hasty. Perhaps.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    so why not call comparatives contrastives?

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Well, I can quite clearly compare and contrast item c) in your list -- it's an editorial column, and I hope is no more required to toe an editorial line than my pieces for Public Address Radio. (For the record, folks, the only editorial line I get from Mr. Brown is 1) keep the colloquialisms within bounds that won't attract the attention of the Broadcasting Standards Authority, 2) nothing that will end up seeing everyone concerned sued for defamation or contempt of court, and 3) bring it in to time.)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    What next? "Ansel Adams' greatest place-kicking tips"? "You too can tackle like Marti Friedlander!"

    Heh.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    ...in contrast to the Lada VAZ-2101, which is unlikely to ever achieve the mildest semblance of sportiness to even the laxist of croquet sideliners... ok, I think I'm getting there, thanks Tom.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Martin,

    And the Ralston column is hackneyed, inconsistent, wrong on facts and one of the worst things he's ever written.

    Why do his articles never carry a byline concerning his connections with the National Party in general and its parliamentary leader in particular?

    I have no problem with his articles,especially when they achieve a modicum of literacy and thought...but it is more honest that folk are aware that he has a foot in the camp.

    I would appreciate a byline on all journalists articles if they have an association with the topic they are writing on...

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 187 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Meanwhile, the Commerce Commission filing proceeding against thirteen airlines -- including Air New Zealand -- for allegedly engaging in price fixing worth hundreds of millions of dollars wasn't worth front page, above the fold coverage in the Herald this morning.

    An (admittedly adorable) moppet shopping for a Christmas tree was.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    I got the impression the Ralston column was written with the main goal of simply pissing people off. More generally, isn't that the aim of most opinion pieces in our broadsheet in type but tabloid in inclination national daily papers now? I think the general tactic is to have a group of columnists who have such outlandish views that hopefully the audience will be drawn back in outraged fascination, as if Bill Ralston is a gruesome intellectual bruise you can't help pressing.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2217 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    Meanwhile, the Commerce Commission filing proceeding against thirteen airlines -- including Air New Zealand -- for allegedly engaging in price fixing worth hundreds of millions of dollars wasn't worth front page, above the fold coverage in the Herald this morning.

    Well, they wouldn't want to upset the advertisers, would they?

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Tom: You might want to sit down, and check on three-headed calves have been born in your vicinity, but you're right. I'll put it this way: If your not a total US politics junkie, which name would you recognise without recourse to Google -- George F. Will or Ann Coulter? It probably won't be the thoughtful one.

    And sorry for sounding like I'm flogging a dead and decomposing horse, but would Chris Trotter be the go-to media leftie if he wasn't such a reliable source of turbo-charged hyperbole? Not that Hooters is any better...

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Well, they wouldn't want to upset the advertisers, would they?

    That's just a little too tidy, Idiot/Savant. More like "horribly complicated story without a convenient 'it bleeds, it leads' hook"; though to be fair, aviation reporter Grant Bradley did have a reasonably useful story buried back on page B1 .

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    What happens if you get the answer wrong? Is there punishment such as public humiliation or parental fines?
    Or maybe there's a plan to provide extra educational support for those who have difficulty answering 'compare and contrast' questions?

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3227 posts Report Reply

  • James Liddell,

    And yes, I know it is written by different people on different days, but it is presented as the voice of the paper and should demonstrate a reason degree of consistency.

    And by that rationale the Herald should have run a front page editorial under the byline Democracy Under Attack, and promised to publish monthly the photos of those who voted for the urgency motion.

    But credit where it's due, the HoS editorial is well written.

    Wellington • Since Jul 2007 • 102 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    I suppose I should answer this properly ...

    Is your personal TV Station payment for your support of Operation 8 & the extended police powers?

    That's an absurd suggestion of the kind generally associated with lower-quartile Kiwiblog commenters.

    I do not have "a private TV station", although that would be cool. I host a TV show, which is still pretty cool.

    And although I have explained extensively my view that the activities of a number of those arrested in October last year warranted the attention and intervention of the police, I am very much concerned about the general police surveillance of groups like Greepeace, as revealed in the Sunday Star Times. On the face of it, it's an unacceptable fishing expedition into legitimate protest groups.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    And by that rationale the Herald should have run a front page editorial under the byline Democracy Under Attack, and promised to publish monthly the photos of those who voted for the urgency motion.

    Or at least offered something a little stronger than the hilariously half-hearted phrase "not on".

    But credit where it's due, the HoS editorial is well written.

    It is.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Kracklite,

    I think the general tactic is to have a group of columnists who have such outlandish views that hopefully the audience will be drawn back in outraged fascination

    A standard tactic of talkback, for sure - and certain subeditors handling letters to the editor. Capital Times' indulgence of the frothing H Westfold comes to mind.

    I am very much concerned about the general police surveillance of groups like Greepeace

    I'm told by an activist acquaintance that the infiltrators are easy to spot, as they're the ones who suddenly show up and push hardest for the most direct, extremist action. It's not just fishing... it can annd does go further into planting or entrapment.

    The Library of Babel • Since Nov 2007 • 982 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Or at least offered something a little stronger than the hilariously half-hearted phrase "not on".

    From too much hyperbole to not enough? And, yes, I feel rather dirty engaging in devil's advocacy on behalf of that giant sheltered workshop for the aliterate and terminally dumb. Yes, my default position on urgency is extreme scepticism and you don't have to try hard to find endless examples where the public good was the last consideration. But I'm obviously the only person who thinks democracy doesn't need to be hooked up to the mains and shocked back into life either.

    I am very much concerned about the general police surveillance of groups like Greepeace, as revealed in the Sunday Star Times. On the face of it, it's an unacceptable fishing expedition into legitimate protest groups.

    And considering what a shitpile the last round of spying allegations that appeared under the by-line of Messers Hubbard and Hager, I certainly hope the SST's new editor is a little less credulous than his predecessor. This is one story that better be absolutely water-tight.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Grant McDougall,

    And the Ralston column is hackneyed, inconsistent, wrong on facts and one of the worst things he's ever written.

    Why do his articles never carry a byline concerning his connections with the National Party in general and its parliamentary leader in particular?

    He discussed that issue in a recent post in his blog at stuff. As he sees it, he himself has nothing to do with the National Party, but his wife, Janet Wilson, her company does work for Key, so technically he only has a connection through her is his argument.
    That's the gist of it - read his post for further elaboration.

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2006 • 760 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    I'm told by an activist acquaintance that the infiltrators are easy to spot, as they're the ones who suddenly show up and push hardest for the most direct, extremist action. It's not just fishing... it can annd does go further into planting or entrapment.

    Reminiscent of J Edgar Hoover's COINTELPRO unit from the Cold War.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5443 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    Reminiscent of J Edgar Hoover's COINTELPRO unit from the Cold War.

    There are no shortage of tinfoil hat wearers on the Internet who will tell you that it was never disbanded.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1611 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg,

    And meanwhile NZ bumbles into pissing off a major trading partner with a bit of arrogant Uncle Tom-ism, which has made me ashamed of my country.

    I've blogged about it here if anyone cares.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3283 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    There are no shortage of tinfoil hat wearers on the Internet who will tell you that it was never disbanded.

    Why is that so unlikely?

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

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