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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • Paul Campbell,

    Hmm TV news says that "the police are asking for anyone who knows anything about the dirty politics case should contact them right away" .... so pick up that phone and read them a chapter

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to mark taslov,

    I agree. I'm just more inclined to give MFAT the benefit of the doubt than I am McCully or Key, and if Rodney Hide wrote it, I'm inclined to add the kind of grain of salt that would have even the most hard-boiled hutong born and bred Old Beijinger muttering "go easy on that".

    So, sure, if it was an MFAT screw-up - and they certainly do happen - then somebody should face the appropriate consequences. But I'm not convinced it was. Not yet, not from the evidence that's out there.

    A propos of nothing: Was at Chaoyang Park this morning. Patriotic music piped over the speakers. We were up the northeast side, where there was some Cross-Straits shindig going on. S3kurity. On our way out some fresh-faced lad who looked all of 18 and just in from some village on the outskirts of Dachang tried to smile at me as we left. In other circumstances, especially had he not been dressed in 特.警 style get-up carrying a truncheon at a gate swarming with other gu@rds, some dressed like him, others in normal uniforms, checking bags, m3tal detectors, I may have responded other than by glaring at him and walking on. My impression is the situation was more normal in other parts of the park away from the shindig.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    Of course the US has 'privatised' its consulate in another way - basically they charge you by the hour to visit them (or talk to them on the phone) - better have a credit card if you have a question - and be able to travel to Auckland to renew your passport .....

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Fran pretends to have grown a spine but I seem to recall a few anti-Feeley articles under her byline...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2932 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    testing... 1... 2...
    Fairfax takes the Radio NZ Interviewers style debate from the Letters Pages to a brief article, promising comment from current RNZ boss (and ex-Fairfax exec and editor) on Monday...
    Oddly the example they have picked of so called 'feral' behaviour is one of Espiner's better moments - when he wouldn't let Key get away with parroting the party line on a question that needed an answer not a sidetrack...
    If that is setting the narrative - it's missing the point.
    To my way of thinking
    - which 'admittedly' can be fraught at times...

    My recollection of Thompson's time at The Press was that he was all about the changes...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7943 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to nzlemming,

    Like this.

    The linkages between Savage and Slater and now Odgers and O'Sullivan, really do make going back to the articles written previously an interesting exercise.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Slater's response to O'Sullivan's article includes threats to publish historic emails showing their alleged collusion. Interesting (de-linked).

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19707 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Sacha,

    From the comments:

    I see O’Sullivan is now getting validation from Alastair Thompson and Giovanni Tiso. This is not going to end with any winners on any sides.

    Because when I try to visualise the archetypal O’Sullivan supporter, quite naturally it’s the epitomical Mr ‘validation’ Tiso who springs to mind.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to mark taslov,

    I've been linking to this as contrast.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2932 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to nzlemming,

    I’ve been linking to this as contrast.

    The 'Crusher' personality cult stuff seems awfully subadult now. From memory, John Armstrong was at least as enraptured.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Gotcha II
    UK Dirty politics as well?

    In a setback for Mr Cameron, whose party is trailing the opposition Labour party in most opinion polls ahead of a national election in May, Brooks Newmark said he had written to the prime minister to announce he would be standing down.
    Mr Newmark announced his decision two weeks after he resigned from a junior ministerial post over a story in a Sunday newspaper saying he had sent sexually explicit pictures of himself to an undercover male reporter posing as a woman.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7943 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Her fury was directed at Key: ‘‘If you are the person that is charged with telling me this then that says an awful lot about the person that should be doing it, and I am utterly disgusted.’’

    A spokeswoman for Key said it is his intention ‘‘should Ms Collins be cleared in the current inquiry, to recommend to the governor-general that she be granted the use of the title ‘The Honourable’ for life.’’

    Just because we might end up having to say it, doesn’t mean any of us believe it Judas.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Rob S, in reply to mark taslov,

    Her fury was directed at Key: ‘‘If you are the person that is charged with telling me this then that says an awful lot about the person that should be doing it, and I am utterly disgusted.’’

    She reminds me of Dolores Umbridge in Harry Potter, 'I must have order'.

    Of course the punishment is for getting caught not necessarily her actions as I find it hard to believe other players in the National Party weren't aware of her methods and contacts.

    Since Apr 2010 • 136 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Rob S,

    Yes, which would really grate, her reaction there being quite understandable, her verbal response though, quite farcical:

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Cognitive Dissonance about the FBI and NSA at 60 Minutes

    60 Minutes, which has been harshly criticized for running puff pieces for the NSA and FBI recently, is at it again. Last night, they ran two unrelated yet completely conflicting segments—one focusing on FBI Director Jim Comey, and the other on New York Times reporter James Risen—and the cognitive dissonance displayed in the back-to-back interviews was remarkable.

    from boing boing

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7943 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    like a virgin… ?
    Act II: in which he who should not be referred to as a pampered menial becomes a ‘well kept man’, or is he just a one ‘made man’ band?

    ACT leader David Seymour has been sworn in as New Zealand’s first parliamentary under-secretary since 2005, with Prime Minister John Key signalling a ministerial post lies ahead.

    He now holds the roles of parliamentary under-secretary to the minister of education and to the minister for regulatory reform.
    He will also serve on the finance and expenditure select committee.
    The under-secretary position means Seymour will not be subject to questions in the House. It appears he will not be subject to the Official Information Act also.

    <My incredulous emphasis>

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7943 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    The Minister he is 'under' will however be subject to both on his behalf. In theory. You can imagine what the Speaker will allow instead..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19707 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    ACT leader David Seymour has been sworn in as New Zealand’s first parliamentary under-secretary since 2005,

    Oh good, now Team Key can hide behind his behind. Let’s see how much manipulation happens now under urgency. just call up Seymour, shorten select committee submissions and everyone may as well wag Parliament. There will be no point in debating anything. with the Speaker already biased and restrictive in Question time, there will be very little need to show up. Just a bunch of scum sucking leeches

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Finally throttled down my strained outrage-ometer and finished the book. Fuck, what horrible people. And what restrained reportage from Hager - he could have delved into the personal detail he obviously had access to, and a lesser journalist might have, but the picture he painted just by constraining himself to the political is bad enough.

    Something must happen. I now have to think hard about how.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2932 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to nzlemming,

    Finally throttled down my strained outrage-ometer and finished the book.

    Good on you. I haven't managed to finish, because it will actually fuck with my mental equilibrium, which I need for at least another month.

    Something must happen. I now have to think hard about how.

    I'm planning a contribution, but it needs some free time to work on it. In a nutshell, I think the main contribution that netizens of the left can make is not to fight dirty with dirty, but to fight it with soap. The solution to our politics being hijacked by secret interests using dirty tactics is not to join them, but to shine as bright a light on it as possible, as Hager did.

    The rhetorical power of people opposing this stuff is not really the problem, it's just that rhetoric against rhetoric is only a part of the battle. The war could be won with overpowering factual information.

    I see a need for better information that holds our politicians accountable. Something that is an antidote for the memory hole. We need an Iraq Body Count of poverty. We need a Promise-ometer. We need better measures better conveyed of where our country is actually at, and also where it has come from and is going to.

    In short, I think we need to supplant the news media with information media, devoid of rhetoric and spin. It seems to be happening already, that people already seek data out for themselves, but it could be vastly improved.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    Attachment

    Today’s Tremain

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to BenWilson,

    The solution to our politics being hijacked by secret interests using dirty tactics is not to join them, but to shine as bright a light on it as possible, as Hager did.

    ...

    In short, I think we need to supplant the news media with information media, devoid of rhetoric and spin. It seems to be happening already, that people already seek data out for themselves, but it could be vastly improved.

    Agreed. Well said.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2932 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to BenWilson,

    fight it with soap

    someone hold Slater's mouth open.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19707 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    John Armstrong reckons that the 'rotten smell' of Dirty Politics will continue to linger for the Nats.

    True, National has suffered casualties. Judith Collins was sacked. Jason Ede has exited. Or was exited.

    There are men and women of honour at the higher levels of the Beehive - Bill English, Gerry Brownlee, Anne Tolley and Chris Finlayson come to mind - who must be appalled by what was being done in the name of the party for which they serve. But no one in National has yet to express any regrets.

    It might be politically wise to do so, however. The new Parliament is up and running. Labour, the Greens and New Zealand First yesterday all flagged they would be using whatever mechanisms available to them to make those responsible for National's dirty tricks accountable for their actions.

    National might think it is all over. It might be just the beginning.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1436 posts Report Reply

  • Tim Michie, in reply to Alfie,

    As Russell was saying before the election. *sigh*

    Auckward • Since Nov 2006 • 614 posts Report Reply

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