Field Theory by Hadyn Green

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Field Theory: 65 bottles of beer on the wall...

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  • giovanni tiso, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I'm more thinking of the people who have convinced themselves that the country will somehow be hell on earth for a couple of months. It won't.

    Of course it won't. On the other hand you seem to have a vision of a wonderful multicultural festival full of art and lore which I suspect won't eventuate either.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    wonderful multicultural festival full of art and lore which I suspect won’t eventuate either.

    Certainly wont on the Coast - we're having a nice, well-thought-out exhibition about whitebait/ing/ers at the Hokitika Museum...

    I mean, I love all 3 but the chances of it helping the local economy (=tourism) arnt great- and I doubt it's going to do much for 'bait either.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Of course it won’t. On the other hand you seem to have a vision of a wonderful multicultural festival full of art and lore which I suspect won’t eventuate either.

    Er, it has:

    http://realnzfestival.com/home/

    Events all over the country, funded by the Lotteries Commission.

    I suppose I'm a bit biased, in that NZ On Screen was one of the bigger grant receipients, for the New Zealand On Screen interactive installations in Wellington and Auckland. A caravan converted as a screening room will tour the South Island too, showing heritage screen material. It's pretty cool.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Sue,

    It might seem like whinging, but from my perspective, I want to know how in 2011 NZ is numbering up against statements made ages ago like -

    85,000 visitors expected from overseas
    the world's largest sporting event of 2011
    MEDs forecast for $500 million into the economy
    IRB's forecast of $2 billion into the economy
    Reserve bank's of 700 million into the economy

    were those crazy pie in the sky? are they realistic? nobody in the last 12 months seems to be prepared to give a running update on those forecasts from 2008.


    So for me it's these unknown numbers and expectations I hate
    Then what is with all these additional costs that we keep hearing about (maybe they were not additional costs but planned for long ago)
    example : even if all the tickets are sold it is still going to cost money. (is this even true?)

    the rugby itself, I have no problems with, i think it's a little arrogant to look down on sport fans, or fans of something not deemed hip and cool.

    I love the 7s in wellington and a big huge street party is grand. I had fun when the lions were on tour and right now i think NZ could do with some fun.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 527 posts Report Reply

  • Sue,

    Events all over the country, funded by the Lotteries Commission.

    like 42nd street in wellington, which i totally don’t get

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 527 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Er, it has:

    We’ll see how it goes, it’s all I’m saying. I suspect a medium will be struck between the tourists queuing to view a Colin McCahon retrospective or punching each other and throwing up on my shoes.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Islander,

    I mean, I love all 3 but the chances of it helping the local economy (=tourism) arnt great- and I doubt it’s going to do much for ’bait either.

    But it might be, y'know, a fun and interesting look at an important part of the Coast's culture?

    Anyway, here's the page for it.

    I'm fairly sure the Coast is on the itinerary for the New Zealand on Screen caravan too.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Er, whitebait?

    I mean, I know as much of the lore (and language) as anyone, and hey, I've contributed part of an old article to the displays (I am not being paid, so I'm not sucking up any Lotteries Commission funding.) Part of the reason for funding such events is to encourage RWC visitors to ventures into areas where there are no games being held.

    Yeah, this'll do it-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    Er, it has:

    We’ll see how it goes, it’s all I’m saying.

    Perhaps you could even crank it up a notch from there. Look, from just the first page of the culture and heritage section of that website ..

    Oceania: a major collaboration between the City Gallery and Te papa, exploring the Pacific experience in New Zealand.

    The Christchurch Arts Festival.

    Te Matatini's Arohanui – The Greatest Love at the Wellington St James.

    Style Pasifika in Auckland.

    A showcase for Maori fashion designers, featuring a world premiere exhibition of cloaks from the the Hetet — Te Kanawa collection.

    There are hundreds of events taking place nationwide in a relatively short time. Some would have happened anyway, most wouldn't. People have already been working on them for months.

    It would be nice if the rest of us could simply take these events on their merits. It's going to be quite a couple of months.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Sue,

    Events all over the country, funded by the Lotteries Commission.

    like 42nd street in wellington, which i totally don’t get

    The trick would be not focusing on the things you're not interested in, unless you actually want to be miserable about it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Sue,

    Personally am looking forward to the wellington waterfront being all lit up with pretty lights and images I'm also sorely tempted to enjoy the winter version of Pukekura Park lit up by night.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 527 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to Russell Brown,

    It would be nice if the rest of us could simply take these events on their merits. It’s going to be quite a couple of months.

    Hey - I'm going to the christchurch arts festival, and I probably won't be seeing any games lives, so, yeah, but I think it's still early to tell how it will go. I remember Italy 90 - we were showcasing a lot of things back then too. It was fucking awful. Not saying it will be the same, but it's just too early to tell. You've got this image of arcadia which I think is nice, others are grumpy and they're entitled to it, let's see how it goes.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Is there no one who is actually excited by the fact that we'll be hosting a major sporting event this year?

    I am, and fully intend to get into it, like I never have before with a World Cup. In fact, I'll most likely break the habits of a lifetime and actually go to some games. This is never going to happen in NZ again, I don't want to miss it. To do so reminds me of all the dorks I worked with in Ozzie who opted for double time over the turn of the millenium, which only happens every thousand years. To be there worrying about a fucking bug in software at work struck me as just the kind of thing I'd make sure I never let get in the way of a good time.

    My wife is Australian, and there are many other nations represented in my close circle of friends, so a lot of the games will have high tension. I actually don't really care who wins so much, although naturally I'd prefer it was the All Blacks. There's a bloody good chance of it too, NZ does play a lot better to a home crowd. But whichever way it goes, there's going to be partying. The games will only be a focal point - they last 90 mins, the partying continues regardless.

    I can understand people who have no interest in rugby. But I can't really get hip to the level of misery that it seems to have generated. It's like being determined to be miserable at your own wedding, because the thing costs a lot of money. Yes, it does, and that sucks, but seriously, it's going to suck even harder if you actually want it to.

    I see the RWC in that light and I for one can't wait.

    Onya. Welcome to PAS, too.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10653 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to BenWilson,

    When you dont have much of a choice as to how your tax & rate monies are spent
    (and seriously, we dont) and you are deeply uninterested in either the event or the attendant happenings (they're all taking place in areas I dont travel to), there is no reason whatsoever to partypartyparty.

    There's good reason to feel miserable about the whole affair.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Hadyn Green,

    (I bet that’s something Craig has been hearing 2008).

    Well, yes – that be democrazy, bitchez! As I said, I’m utterly indifferent to the Rugby World Cup but do have some issues with some seriously dodgy calls (IMO & YMMV, of course) made by local and central government. If politicians don’t like that, widdums.

    ETA: And honestly, I rather doubt Messers Mallard, Banks and McCully have lost a nano-seconds sleep over my disdain.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • bmk,

    I am pretty indifferent to it. But there have been a few things which turned my disinterest into dislike. Our council in their benevolent wisdom thought that spending tens of millions of dollars on upgrading our rugby stadium rather than fixing our fucked sewerage system. Resulting in raw sewage being dumped in our harbour several times a year which makes the water unsafe to swim in and means you can eat no fish or shellfish from this water for some time after.

    The other thing is the changes that have been forced on the academic year with it starting and ending two weeks later than normal. There are real worries about how grades will be updated and entered in time by the end of the year.

    I had nothing against the rugby world cup at the start and was almost looking forward to it. But having seen what harm it has caused in multiple areas I now wish we never had it.

    Since Jun 2010 • 327 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to bmk,

    Especially for all the local-body issues that have been sidelined/trodden over (nod to Tussock, nod to you - o, I am a ratepayer to both WaitakiDC & ORC, so I do have a pecuniary interest in their shennanigans)- but also for the arbitary rearranging of the academic year (younger members o te whanau definitely being inconvenienced)

    = +1

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Grant McDougall, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    I was in Newcastle, NSW in 2001 when the Newcastle Knights won the AFL grand final. The streets were alive with celebrating munters, yelling random shit out of their cars. I know that's league

    No it's not. AFL (Australian Football League) is the dreadful game of "Aussie Rules" and played mainly in Victoria with a minor following in Sydney.

    The Newcastle Knights play the great game of rugby league in the NRL (National Rugby League).

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2006 • 760 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to BenWilson,

    The games will only be a focal point – they last 90 mins, the partying continues regardless.

    I'm planning to upsize the TV and lay on loads of food for my friends. I might go to the odd game, but it seemed more fun to have lots of people having a good time at mine than to try and find someone else to spend hundreds of dollars to go to games with me.

    I'm thinking braised beef short ribs could be the go.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I might go to the odd game, but it seemed more fun to have lots of people having a good time at mine than to try and find someone else to spend hundreds of dollars to go to games with me.

    I’m thinking braised beef short ribs could be the go.

    I think you need some more supporters for the cause, so yeah, I've got 12 cinema seats ready to set up in the garage with a projector from work. The coffee machine will be on, and the BBQ going. Kind of also content to provide hospitality and entertainment in house, rather than trying to get into a game. From what I know of my rugby watching friends, those that aren't here, will be doing something similar.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • tussock,

    Oh, I should add to usual moan, I'm quite looking forward to seeing the AB's go out in the quarters again, or win the thing, either way really. I'm quite the rugby fan when I get to see it, but having lived overseas a bit I prefer to cheer whoever's playing the best looking game at the time, and France are ever so good at making us look like a bunch of schoolboys. At least we'll only get knocked out by them in the final this time, if we get there.

    NZ vs Eng, Fra vs Arg, Aus vs Sam, SA vs Ire.
    Eng vs SA, Fra vs Aus.
    SA vs Fra. (Eng vs Aus).
    France win, England 3rd. 8]

    I think most of the games we've been knocked out in are brilliant games, as most of the knockouts and top-2 pool games are. '99 was the French adapting well to our "pass it to Lomu" strategy with something we failed to adapt to. '07 was the same defence (adjusted for boring-ass rule changes) and us still failing to adapt after 8 years. Kick the damn ball already, guys.


    Wouldn't it be awesome if Japan and France knock us out in Pool play? Ridiculous I know, it'd be like a semi-pro NZ soccer team knocking Italy out of the football world cup finals in pool play or something.

    Since Nov 2006 • 610 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green, in reply to tussock,

    Um, just quietly, no it wouldn't. I'd really rather we win. I mean if we have a choice.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • recordari, in reply to Hadyn Green,

    Um, just quietly, no it wouldn't. I'd really rather we win. I mean if we have a choice.

    Yeah, would it actually kill us to be a little more positive about it? The whole country got behind the All Whites, so why not back a team that actually has a realistic chance of winning it? (cue Football is bigger mansplain)...

    In terms of being a credible organisation, the IRB seems less questionable than say these guys too.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to tussock,

    it’d be like a semi-pro NZ soccer team knocking Italy out of the football world cup finals in pool play or something.

    That will never happen.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to tussock,

    Wouldn't it be awesome

    no

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19719 posts Report Reply

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