In Between 2002 and 2005 Anderton was 3rd in Cabinet and held major portfolios. Hide is outside Cabinet and about the only thing he could be said to have influenced is the Auckland govt reorganisation (which National was arguably going to do anyway). His local govt reform bill is significantly watered down. He ain't got jack.

Hey, here's a thought, though: I was right on the money about the Libertarianz vote.

Very true. They'll be gutted.

Hey David, how about "in hindsight" you admit YOU were wrong David - about how well the Greens would do. Effusive and enthusiastic you were on Backbenchers last week; talking up their campaign and how well they're going to do - I think 9 percent was bandied around.

While we're at, where is Bomber "I swear a lot and the kids like me but really I'm full of crap" Bradbury, who said similar things?

Paula Bennett of the Nats WAS there.

Toastmasters. You're kidding right? They are terrible trainers of public speakers.