You're telling him he should have let it keep on going ad nauseum,
no I'm saying if he felt badger he could have not responded. simply don't engage. didn't your parents tell you to do that when you feel you're being bullied?
This is a heated topic with very passionate people of many and varied experiences involved in it.
Russell seems to have inferred that because I linked to the nz on air board, information freely available on the NZ on Air website that that crosses the line, although his last statements before shutting it down were about something completely different.
Duncan Greive and Vicki Anderson have both written very controversial articles in the mainstream media on this topic. If you don't feel comfortable having a full and frank discussion on it then why even start a topic with an open discussion forum here in the first place.
you've also got the ability to delete offensive comments. use it.
And can you point me out the snide personal remake please? I've said nothing of the sort.
You've made your point, and we've assessed it. Perhaps you could let it go now?
Like jumping across to this thread, you mean?
oh, the irony
as the last one who could be bothered with it
last one of who?
Can't chris, dd robbie etc chat amongst themselves without your guidance?
I wasn't happy about leaving the thread open so that you could concoct conspiracy theories about other people.
oh, it was me, I thought you got in a huff about robbie since that was the last thing you said and shut it down, and reopened it to have one last word and shut it down again.
I can understand why robbie's so passionate about this, I just can't figure out why you are.
DD actually appeared to have read and understood the Broadcasting act, and he appears to have felt he was banging his head against a wall with Russell and Sasha.
If you've said your bit and had nothing new to add without repeating the same stuff you've already said then it was fine that sat back and let some of the other chaps have a word or 2.
I personally thought DD, Chris and every second post from Robbie was interesting, focused and informed. Filtering is what you need to master.
Skip the bits you know bore you, let people vent and assume they have good reason to do so, none of those people seemed like arm chair experts. they all had personal experiences to relate which were different to yours or Russell's, and surely that's fine for them to see things differently.
shessshhhh, ok.... just saying you don't always have to have the last word in a public discussion. If your friend Simon's said his bit and he feels he's got nothing to add then let him be silent.
I'm just saying it doesn't do your argument any favors if you shut down the discussion when it doesn't go your way.
So Robbie raises issues you don't want to discuss,..... just leave it,..., your reading audience is intelligent, they can figure it out for themselves.
It just looks like you shut it down cos it was going in a direction you didn't want to hear and this time it seemed you were outnumbered by some well informed govt document quoting theorists.
Too bad too cos I was looking forward to reading some discussion on the board of directors. ie something real, unlike the mythical NZ on Air Mandate, or a 12 year old brief to a Minister from 2 previous govts ago.
Simon emailed me last night to explain that he just doesn't want to participate in this kind of thread,
You and your friend Simon could just sit this one out and let some of the other voices discuss it. As a host there's no need to dominate a conversation.
hello? can't find the nz on air discussion I was reading. is this it?
If they were serious about reflecting New Zealand's identity, they'd randomly allocate the grants.
or consult with people who had a concept of it.
This is the present board of Nz on Air, not specifically the music division.
Neil Walter CNZM - Chair
Appointed in November 2006
Reappointed in November 2009
Neil Walter is a former Secretary of Foreign Affairs and Trade and diplomat, serving as New Zealand Ambassador to Japan and Indonesia. He undertakes consulting projects for various entities and is a member of several government committees and review teams.
Edie Moke - Deputy Chair
Appointed in April 2004
Edie Moke is a company director and accountant. She chairs the Board's Maori Strategy Committee and leads a documentary working group, responsible for selecting titles for strands.
Appointed in September 2006
Reappointed in November 2009
Nicole is the managing director of television production company Cinco Cine and a member of the Board's Audit and Risk Committee.
Appointed in December 2007
Michael is the Chief Executive of NZ Football and is a 26 year veteran of the music industry.
Appointed in August 2008
Murray is a consultant, company director and former arts administrator. Murray leads a documentary working group, responsible for selecting titles within strands.
Appointed in December 2009
Stephen is a corporate business broker and former television executive, having served 22 years with TVNZ. Stephen is a member of the Board's Audit and Risk Committee and leads a documentary working group responsible for selecting titles within strands.
That lot and Brendan Smyth and his helpers. No wonder their music strategy is so messed up. To be fair this lot is relatively recent, ie post the 1998 change in direction, but as has been pointed out none of them appear to be up for correcting the course.
why does the Government need to pay to make more?
Why is the ministry of Culture and Heritage involved so heavily in the Radio Hits game?
there were some huge and important successes for NZ music in the decade after 1995. I think Mike's wrong about that.
I didn't read Bradshaw's comments to mean that NZ music became shit in 98, more he's saying there's a fundamental shift in how NZ on Air addressed its primary objectives around 1998, (not 95?) and this impacted counter productively in his eyes come from an artistic viewpoint as he mentioned.