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that would be the Chris Matthews who said in 2009
The very same, but if you read Vicki's article she mentions people have been scared to speak their mind on matters NZ on Air for some time, so it doesn't surprise that the man might be sucking it in in 2009 and letting it out in 2010.
You'd have to ask him why he's now saying what he's saying. Perhaps not a change in attitude at all as he does say he's 'bitched for some time', just felt it more coy to keep his mouth shut in public in the past.
As noted in Mike Bradshaw's interview, NZ on Air's style in music funding has over its course changed. He puts it at the 5 year mark (98?). Make of that what you will.
I think it's important to focus on which phase of funding you're talking about.
It's pointless to say 'they got grants in 1995 so they can't complain', cos we're not talking about 1995 here, we're talking about present day funding.Also CM's CD says made with assistance from Creative Communities, Creative Communities being local focus funding judged by members of local arts communities.
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Wrong
Thrash that one out with DD, You're contraditing each other but he seems to be well up on the actual govt docs.....
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Sorry if I'm missing something, but if you want your video played on TV, shouldn't you send it to a TV channel or something?
From what I read on that comment the video was won as part of a prize in a band competition.
You'd have to ask both parties what went on there but I it would seem there is little point in asking an unsigned band competition winner to fathom how to approach tv stations in order to secure a screening for their own video. NZ on Air would be in a much better position to do that, and possibly it was part of the deal, a deal broken when the master tape was lost.I guess the band in question saw their treatment as a lack of good faith on NZ on Air's part and I can see why they'd feel that way.
Another one Joe's unwarranted "sole examples of bitterness and failure' no doubt?
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I'm not sure it's understandable at all.
understandable in that its got reasonably intelligent men talking about nz on airs mandate when
The Broadcasting Act does not provide any mandate for NZ on Air.
Understandable in that some very experienced people involved in all levels of music in NZ are scratching their heads regarding what's going on at NZ on Air and how it managed to get itself there.
Mike Bradshaw full Real Groove interview
Understandable in that many people are having difficultly grasping what it is NZ on Air is trying to do and that they have been less than co-operative with Vicki in her original attempts to come to terms with inconsistencies that it now seems common place to acknowledge.
To be fair to Vicki you appear to be shooting her down on some points she raised in an opinion piece from 2 years ago and applying it to her current piece, not giving her full credit for the valid points she does make, and the courage it took to do so. It would be nice to give credit where its due and all that.
Do you think she has an underlying motive?
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Another high profile voice of dessent from his facebook page linking to Vicki's article in support.
Chris Matthews : Yup, I've bitched to anyone who'll listen about the nepotistic, anti-South Island bias of N.Z. On Air before; even though I'm hardly a 'New Recording Artist', that's the only funding round they have that's available to someone like me (Dunedin-based independent musician) and I've been turned down as many times as I've ...applied for their $5,000 grants, which was about 5 in as many years. I gave up sending them songs about 3 years ago, though, 'cos they obviously weren't ever gonna give me a grant despite my previous track record of making music that lots of people in this country liked. Back to the old computer for me, I guess, you don't really need a grant to make a recording these days, but it'd be nice if they gave a bit of cash to some of the young 'uns down this way who could do with a bit of recognition.
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The Broadcasting Act does not provide any mandate for NZ on Air.
Thanks DD. Good to see the actual material posted.
There seems to be so much confusion about what's going on, including from our panel of experts and no wonder. A mandate that is no mandate??
Now we can see what's actually written people will be able to focus in that.
Vicki is (understandably?) confused in some of her statements and right on the money in many others. The number of artists including well respected and intelligent ones who are having problems with the system should not be casually dismissed. They risk a lot by speaking out, and as alluded to in Vicki's article in Friday's press "Top 10 questions I tried to ask NZ on Air this week" (which hasn't appeared in 'Stuff' as yet but is accessible via the libraries excellent newspaper service), here's a transcription.
6. Following last week's opinion piece on NZ On Air in The Press I have received approximately 350 emails, phone calls and other messages from New Zealand musicians from around the world (Japan, Canada, Florida, Taiwan, Australia and New York) who, even though they are thousands of miles away, are too scared to speak out themselves. Why is the community you are supposed to be supporting scared of you?
It's easy to attack these people but something must be up if so many are confused and or unsatisfied. They can't all be "sole examples of bitterness and failure'.
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but that is changing the mandate
has anyone got a link to a copy of 'the mandate' so we can all see what you're talking about. I read the excerpts dd (dave dobbyn?) posted from the broadcasting act which seemed very contradictory to the actions of the organisation but is there an actual full description of how they can and should act? I'm sure many of you must have read it but I haven't seen it as yet.
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I would say those eligible for funding are stake holders but you're right, in the wider sense,
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I'm enjoying reading this discussion but just a point on this
it is about the music biz that spawns so many embittered "failures and rejects".....
I'd previously thought Jody Lloyd was the sole example,...
Jody Lloyd is or was a stakeholder, ie a creator of cultural content and as such is directly affected by the conduct of The Ministry of Culture and Heritage, and its subsidiaries, The Broadcasting Commission via New Zealand on Air.
There feels something wrong with non stakeholders sitting back in judgment as people like Lloyd go into fight for stronger support for what we are more likely to call NZ culture than the majority of that currently getting funding via NZ on Air.
It takes a lot of courage to stick your head up and speak up against a govt organisation and Lloyd is by no means the only one.
have a good read of this article from
Vicki Anderson in last friday's The Press.
Also check out the comments section.
Paul Kean #4 11:32 pm May 01 2010
Good honest article Vicki. We've all but given up trying for grants. That's The Bats and Minisnap. Last 2 bats album's and minisnap albums and ep's done without grants - a few tours to USA and Europe done without grants - several videos done without grants. Still we get great reviews, full houses and cd & merchant sales are not bad; especially on tour but with a bit of extra support we could market us and nz a hell of a lot better.There's plenty more like that there but one of the points in Ms Anderson's article is that people are scared to speak out about their treatment for fear of getting "the back of a blue suit" as she did.
Is Paul Kean of the Bats and Minisnap another of your sole examples of 'bitterness and failure'?
Cos from where I'm sitting (Overseas) The Bats and people like them are exactly what we think of when we think New Zealand, yet it seems the organisation in charge of preserving and presenting such things seems to be doing everything but in its rush to play the game of 'making Radio Hits'. Last I checked 'Heritage and Culture', and Broadcasting National identity had absolutely nothing to do with the act of commercial Radio Hits. It doesn't exclude them, it just isn't the focus of it.
So the big question is, what the hell is going on there? How did they get so far off track?