Posts by andin

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  • OnPoint: Some of My Best Friends are Consultants,

    Despite not having 30% of the data, they considered it proof that the Capping regime wasn’t affecting consulting expenditure. Having declared that it was okay for that one year, they stopped measuring the the regime against this data, even though it was still being compiled by Treasury.

    That's just shoddy, lazy and self serving and it's not criminal heh!

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media, in reply to Sacha,

    That takes an ongoing adult discussion too.

    And adult is the operative word.
    Some of the Master and Margarita. Margarita's flight halfway mark NSFW
    Forgive the Russian dialogue

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    The last words of Yeshua/Jesus, from Bulgakov’s The Master and Margarita:

    I still love the idea of a applying a cream which gets you a nighttime naked flight to the devils yearly party, and your maidservant flying by on a lecherous civil servant converted by the cream to a pig.
    And she just had to let the inhabitants of hell kiss her foot. Beautiful.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    That was a splendid job of taking down an argument nobody was making, as far as I can tell.

    I hope i’m here not just making an argument. Raising a point or 2 mebbe. Oh and offending peoples condescension sense's.

    And

    Believe it or not I can argue about anything except religion. It’s a very intimate and complex part of my life, and I don’t really like using it as cocktail party argument fodder.

    And I dont want to run down (mmm poke fun?) what seems grafted to our being. And if you were doing that I’d be worried.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media, in reply to DexterX,

    I hold nothing against people who through their interpretation of the Bible/Gospel devote their life to charity, care of the sick, doing prison visits, mentoring and teaching children – those great things the traditional churches involved themselves with.

    Thats not all they do/did.
    How has (obviously over time) what should be considered a high attainment for all of us become wedded to this notion of other worldliness. Do we need special permission to be kind, to put our pecuniary interests second. In that great sweep that is our history the answers are there. As I said "drifting" along.

    I believe this approach is more likely to be productive than, say, sending you around to berate them about what their culture means.

    I guess you are talking about the children, in which case I agree with you. They are just kids. But none of our cultures/ideas are sacrosanct we have to allow internal as well as external criticism to happen. And that goes right down to the individual. Ring fencing ideas, parts of ourselves well, not sure of the real benefits. Other than you can get all cozy inside.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media, in reply to Martin Lindberg,

    Could you two be any more condescending if you actually tried?

    Good I hit a nerve. I was trying so dont get too comfortable.
    Since when is talking about occupies most of our fellow as this concept (yeah I know its heartfelt and dear to us all). Oh One shouldn't talk about it or lets all agree to disagree.
    Call me condescending...

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media, in reply to Ross Mason,

    can’t help thinking this attachment of religion to culture is a bit like the ID crowd trying to move in to main stream science

    Nah more like a collective thumb sucking.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media,

    From the Stuff article

    Young people in New Zealand are increasingly secularised, but some are finding religion interesting and attractive because they know so little about it.

    Which means they will learn about it? Umm no just join up...

    Churches are trying to connect with young people by using their language – social media and video.

    What do they speak a different language on social media and video?
    Boy is that lazy writing, much like what is being peddled in this "marketplace".

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media, in reply to Sacha,

    aren’t most ‘role models’ stretching us beyond what we are?

    Dont think we can stretch to reach the supernatural or the realm of perfect being.
    Anyway jesus is a device/tool for the unscrupulous to fill that gap that they believe exists.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Hard News: Belief Media,

    It's hard not to dig jesus, especially if you have him as a childhood role model, he's ace.

    Yea but it was always understood you'd never ever be like him or as pure, good, all the rest was it noble? I wont go into the just lunatic shit healing lepers, curing the sick, raising the dead.
    So set yourself up to feel inadequate, yep good role model.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

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