Posts by Shep Cheyenne
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Thanks Steve - yes Arms Act 1983 & 2000 had a bit there about carriage & possesion but not use (still reading but need sleep)
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Angus as nice as it would be not everyone has $1000 burning a hole in the wallet. - Just my 2cents worth.
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Steve I couldn't find what I was looking for in the Police Act- any pointers?
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AS - I fear they're competing for that role.
Kyle - some wiki magic:
The police returned fire and a two minute gun-battle ensued in which one policeman was shot in the ankle by a stray bullet that passed through the crib.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramoana_massacre
This is what can happen when cops surround their target, rather than flank it.
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AS - a death is a death & should be counted as such suicides and all.
I'm not against firearm ownership and see a real need to increase the destruction of pests. I really would like shooting courses to be part of firearms ownership & a greater restriction on weapons. Even a central armoury for weapons to be kept - rather than at homes - although not practicle for rural owners.
Regarding the SAS it is really a matter of duplication, once we cross the Terror line the ball is passed to the SAS. We now seem to be financing two anti-terror units - where IMO there is very little for any but I'll happily finance one.
Thanks Steve - I'll have a squiz now.
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Steve - As the SAS have the anti-terror role in NZ & have recently formed a new domestic based force it was interesting the police took charge of the raid on Ruatoki.
Oh & I shud stick with licenced. Anyone can go off 1/2 cocked ;)AS - I agree on military semi-autos.
Our firearms licences don't require the holder to be able to shoot. This is the fundamental difference with the licencing requirements for say driving/flying/teaching etc. The personal checks are made on the probability of things known they won't go crazy or sell them to crims - not that they can shot straight (Cat A)- This needs to be changed.
You seriously don't think a personal arsenal of 150 firearms including pistols is acceptable?
This is where our laws on what can be owned are loose in comparison with Australia - After Port Arthur they had mass demolition of firearms.
I would like to see chapter & verse of the Police Act (if you've got it & the time to spare), just they're been a bit tardy with detail of late - WOFs etc.
I would still be more comfortable if all police & NZDF had the same licence as the general public, even if receive at an accelerated rate.
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Steve - you sure left me behind there & drinks would be playing a bit too much catch-up for me - enjoy (if you think you shud drink in that mood).
You know something of police incompetence with firearms then Steve?
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SB
Back on page 15 you compared NZ with Greece & Crete. Freedom Fighter with Bandits.
One of the causes would be a corupt & abusive govt.Here's HRW on Greece - any comparisons here?
Human rights abuses in Greece involved freedom of speech, discrimination against minorities, physical abuse of detainees and prisoners, and violations of religious freedom.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1994/WR94/Helsinki-11.htm
RB
We should remeber where "ninja" came from. A terrorised child describing there reality honestly, not hyperbole.
I'ld dispute masked police as a safety measure. It is clearly a matter of hiding their identification when engaged in terror activities.A S
Semi-autos & bolt/pump action alike have the same class of licence. (I'm pretty sure - but I don't have one).
We have far too loose laws in regard to firearms.
150 firearms were stolen from a Christchurch address, including many pistols. Only 50 have been recovered so far.
There seems to me to be a pretty easy answer to having 100 illeagal firearms on the Streets of Christchurch. Have a max. number in a personal armoury.Johnno or A S - Can you tell me if the "police" who conducted the raids were licenced to use their firearms?
As the pistol clubs in Christchurch claimed Police were held to a lower level of competence than private owners after the recent shooting here. Didn't the AOS shoot each other at Aromoana?
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Labour wasn't driving the raids at all.
They're have an open mind as to how they get their conviction.Johnno a wager for conviction or that they found a zippo lighter?
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Johnno - we know there were no firearms found in Wellington.
The Police would have leaked it already if there were.
More fundamentally they raided non-violent activists & there never were firearms there.