Posts by Bart Janssen
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Hard News: The flagging referendum, in reply to linger,
What fallacy?
I think he's pointing out that because the government gets to spend so much of our money we shouldn't care when it pisses down the toilet tiny amounts like $60 million dollars which realistically could never amount to anything of value if it was spent anywhere else so we just should stand back and not worry our little heads over it dear.
Or we could spend it on women's refuge.
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Hard News: The flagging referendum, in reply to Rich of Observationz,
$60 million is about 0.005% of public spending.
would pay for our research for the next 20 years!
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Hard News: The flagging referendum, in reply to Russell Brown,
We don’t get a do-over on this. We’re locked in.
Which is also not true.
We can change our minds as many times as we can be bothered.
However, like the government department that changes its logo every three years, there is a cost ... real dollars ... guesstimates for the NZ flag change are $60 million and up, that's not the cost of the referendum that's the cost of changing letterheads, letterheads, passports etc
But yeah I agree there will be very little public will for change after this debacle
UNLESS what we change to is really beautiful
And that's been the whole pity about this campaign for me NONE of the designs was really beautiful, they were all just flags
And yeah flags can be beautiful, these, setting aside the union jacks are pretty damn cool
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Polity: Booze review! Brewday IV, in reply to Rich of Observationz,
their grown up citizens
define "grown up"
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Seriously did Len Brown steal Bernard Orsman's lunch when he was a kid?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11595378And how is this even published anywhere let alone in the biggest newspaper in the country, what a load of tripe.
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Hard News: So what now?, in reply to Craig Ranapia,
aren’t so bad when they’re being filled by affluent elderly registered voters
Not to mention the shares in Ryman
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Just like to mention we got intensification on the end of our street a decade ago (55ish apartments)
The. Sky. Did. Not. Fall.
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Hard News: So what now?, in reply to Keir Leslie,
It would be an absolute undemocratic outrage
As crazy as disbanding an elected body that was protecting waterways from overuse and appointing a commission that to greenlight dairy expansion in one of the least suitable environments in NZ.
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Hard News: So what now?, in reply to Sacha,
I doubt people are asking for high-rise ghettos like previous councils allowed on Nelson St. Medium-rise is the typology we are most missing.
Exactly, and also not all in one place but spread through the mid-range suburbs and aligned with improved public transport routes.
This isn't rocket science and it isn't something never seen before in the world so there is plenty of information on how to do this right - if you want examples have a look at transportblog and the gen zero sites.
BUT people see two things - first is their backyard suddenly becomes something they don't like and they'd rather have their personal slice of heaven unchanged regardless of how many others are left in the lurch AKA selfish nimbyism.
And second, people see the opportunity to make LOTS of money, especially if the system can be rigged to make their business profit AKA greed.
At least 13 of our current council appear to be happy to go with nimbyism and greed and are too stupid to see the next likely step of a government appointed commission, which ironically will cut them out of the profits and make sure they have no influence over whose backyard is affected.
Nose wave bye bye to face.
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Hard News: So what now?, in reply to Glenn Pearce,
Slightly hyperbolic
Not if the govt appoints commissioners which seems highly likely. At that point the politically appointed commission will do whatever the biggest National party donor wants.