Posts by Steve Barnes

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  • Speaker: Remembering the Chartists,

    She's feisty.

    Labour needs people like Keisha, I wonder if she's interested?. On the same node (my recognising political talent node) I have good feelings about David Shearer. He sent shivers down my spine with that Maiden Speech, there was an underlying passionate quiver in his voice.
    He ain't no stinkin' banker.

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  • Guilty 2: Taito Philip Field,

    I always understood mana to include humility.

    What I understood from his explanation was that it didn't, but if you didn't retain the respect of your people then you would be regarded as being arrogant (can't remember the right expression, help?) and be sent to Coventry (or whatever the Aotearoian equivelent is, Timaru?)

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  • Speaker: Remembering the Chartists,

    How about a small retainer, say $35,000 plus WORK related expences. That way at least they would have to do some work.
    ;-)

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  • Guilty 2: Taito Philip Field,

    Excuse the typos and spelling. I seem to be a little foggy today.
    ;-)

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  • Guilty 2: Taito Philip Field,

    the one time I met him, in the early 90s, he struck me as a remarkably arrogant man.

    The concept of Mana, as explained to me by the late Matiu Rata, touched on this point. I can't quote directly because I didn't write it down but irc a simple explaination was Mana is an aquired and deserved arrogance, a sence of entitlement derived fron the respect afforded to you by your people. Or something akin to that, I'm sure Islander will correct me if I misunderstood.

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  • Guilty 2: Taito Philip Field,

    And yet I'm sure Ingram found some consolation in the $479K he charged.

    Now, that is real Class.

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  • Guilty 2: Taito Philip Field,

    We all now know that some normalised Pacific Island practices are - rightly - judged as corrupt in this country.

    Valid point, one I have been espousing since day one. This had every opportunity to become a "Racist" issue, or more correctly, a "culturalist" issue. Had these Pacific Island norms been appropriated by the west Clinton would, more than likely, still be president. Think about it.
    Oh, and while I'm here. Craig, have you lurched to the rational Left or has this forum stumbled to the irrational Right?. There is far too much agreement here. ;-)

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  • Speaker: Remembering the Chartists,

    That's a good point. Public respect, at least as measured by those surveys, is not at all closely tied to income.

    I'll try again.
    Those people, in this country, who accumulate vast wealth seem to think it is analogous to being Royalty.
    Do you not see that?.

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  • Speaker: Remembering the Chartists,

    In our fair land it is a substitute for class.
    This doesn't seem to answer the question. It seems to indicate only what you think other people think.

    OK. Maybe I should have put "Yes, because" before the statement ironically referring to our, alleged, egalitarian society. so I suppose I should have written "Yes, because in our fair land wealth is a substitute for class."
    Clearer?.

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  • Speaker: Remembering the Chartists,

    they don't need the Prime Minister telling them to shut up

    Can I tell them to shut up?. All this bollocks about global warming is getting on my proverbial man boobs. This whole IPPC thing is just a rort aimed at scuttling any chance of the third world escaping from under the corrupt and exploitive thumb of the West. This "you can pump out as much CO2 as you like as long as you buy our credits" is a kick in the balls for any nation building an industrial base.
    Globally warm that!.

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