Posts by Shep Cheyenne
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Matthew - 1st rule of 1st aid - make sure it's a safe environment and no-one else is in danger.
Do any critics of the cops action here have a 1st Aid Cert?
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Nick - lets not go there & agree to differ.
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A S - you're not talking about defensive capabilities, that would be bullet proof glass seperating the shopper from the product and retailer (as some latenight petrol stations do now - ok it maynot be bullet proof glass).
You're talking about arming the civilian population, with intent to use this force in an offensive and even preemptive manner, if they feel threatened, right?As you seemed to me to be advocating a more aggressive role of the police, you're now wanting that to be the 'right' of the public. Both of these situations will lead to more deaths and a massive change to the NZ way of life.
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Come on, Scott Watson was found guilty & is riding a wave of public scepticism over the police, but he shouldn't be your poster child here.
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A S - "I don't know many who would have assumed they shouldn't expect help, ..."
The key thing is, positive information, where is the gunman now? That the gunman wasn't in the shop front didn't mean he wasn't still around.
It's shitty, but those stab proof vests aren't bullet proof.The alternative to this is leads to 'fog of war' situations and anyone in the shop could be shot as cops raid in an armed and aggressive manner.
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Craig "But if Labour doesn't get a 3-5 point poll bounce out of this, they're doomed. And that's what really matters, right?"
Yip - it's shameless.
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Linger - "Rather more of us are squeamish about eating dogs, horses, whales, or monkeys, largely because there is more evidence that such animals are above the self-determination threshold. Of course, if you're going to go with the minimum definition of "personhood", and apply it consistently, your diet will be that much more restricted"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-determination
Linger - you're having fun eh?
Are you offering to charge a horse in court, like a scene from Black Adder; or are you in defacto presenting the arguement for cannibalism?But for the shortage I've no issue with eating whales and am rather keen to chomp on cheval.
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Craig - Point taken cash doesn't replace lives. I also see a benifit for the criminal in paying penance for their wrong doing, not just 'doing time'. With a few exceptions I'm against prisons.
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Stephen - Free water for industry & general use would be one.
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"I think National is proposing something similar, but the numbers don't come anywhere near adding up."
That's where we get away from jails and have the criminals work it off, either in their old jobs, if at all possible, or in other tasks as directed.