Posts by Shep Cheyenne
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To what point do Police take responsibility for their own skill level?
If you're too fat, go for a run before work, if you can't shoot straight, go to a range one day a month.The Piggy back on Army ammo is interesting. How long before Greg O'Connor calls for 50 Cals?
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"Instead, Dr Clydesdale will present a report on teaching students to manage work relationships."
I'm shocked he's presenting at all, but I suppose the Airfare and hotel were already paid for & it is Brazil after all.
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That dog 'shooting' was just dangerous.
If he couldn't hit it why shoot?
He or others weren't being attacked - if that was the case he would have been able to shoot it.About a decade back(?) A stoned skinhead drove to the Central Police Station & started shooting up.
Cops came out - I think they hit him twice in the leg. No issue with this, he had a gun and was firing.
The shots from the very new cop were not accounted for, which means he wasn't shooting straight or down. He must have shot up, maybe into Hagley Park & along the cycle route. For all rounds shot, not all have been accounted for, even now. -
Gold - "Shotguns are hard on the body"
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That quote from Borthwick was from The Independent.
I expected The Sun or one with a pg 3.Make of this what you will
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A S - I totally agree.
I used M16 to give the picture of what's to come & suspect there has been little (if any) need for semi-automatic rifles over bolt action.
Prior to Timor, I did have the CO of the Tasmanian Reserve Army say with some exasperation that his soldiers couldn't match Martin Bryant.
A number of incidents have highlighted the limitations - that dog where the cop emptied a mag & missed or the Skinhead with a deathwish (unfulfilled) in Christchurch (& all rounds unaccounted for).
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rogerd - Tasers are "less-lethal" force. They have killed in the past and will kill in the future.
Matthew - none of these weapons are benign.
" SOPs have been refined "
As we're talking about deaths, what is this code for - unlawful killing?Whatever weapons the police use, the decision should go to the wider public in some form.
They work for us after all.As we've kind of chased our tails on this subject a little.
Any thoughts on the new model M16s in wider use by the cops?
I'm in two minds myself. -
Kyle - with logic like that - No-ones died of AIDS.
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Rob -"come off my hands after a vigorous wash "
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Sure Dogs aren't the answer to everything - as much as they would like to chase a car they prob won't be issuing speeding tickets anytime soon ;-)
Here's the condiments:
"Two deaths have occurred in NZ following use of pepper spray by police. Mentally ill Ian Horsfield, aged 66, died in 1999. Intellectually disabled Russell Hamilton, aged 32, died in July 2001."
http://www.howardleague.co.nz/factsheets/factsheet_18.htmlThe Buzzer:
"The use of the Taser as a less lethal intervention implies that Police would only use the weapon when the alternative would be to use lethal force against an offender - a restriction favoured by Amnesty International"
-Amnesty on side, interesting."However, the Taser will not normally be used against a person armed with a firearm by NZ Police "
http://www.howardleague.co.nz/factsheets/factsheet_42.htmlSorry couldn't find details on Dogs.
I accept they bite, and may maime but the alternatives have all killed.