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Peter,
I'll blame 'Sgt. Pepper' for where it all went wrong. The recent Dylan doco 'No Direction Home' documents well Bobby's ever-growing exasperation with the wildly misinterpretive public and media swarming around him. In truth, Dylan was, harder than anyone, working against the pop thing; promoting traditionalism; an anathema to the infantilism and narcissism of pop. I think he unfairly got swept up in some widespread fetish for faux intellectualism that broke through at the time, like an army of Nickelbacks to Kerouac's & Ginsburg's Nirvana, leaving Bob virtually shouting "I am not the Messiah", when no-one wanted to hear it.Bono on the other hand is just an ego-maniac. Maybe that's why he's so popular.
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Keen clearly doesn't understand his own theme, and grasp the irony of using Bono as an example.
So true. All that does is peg him as out of touch. I can understand his point, I suppose, but it just looks like another 47-year-old guy who doesn't understand "the kids". I'm 34 and I don't understand the kids either, but I at least understand the minor revolutions of pop culture, such as Simon mentions above (all of which were widely hailed as rubbish by then-47-year-olds) enough to realise that his central premise is headed for a fall.
Besides, if you want to root out the causes of infantilism and narcissism in pop culture, wouldn't the TV, film and CD industries perhaps be far more deserving targets?
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They did. It was called a Watchman. I had one in about '91. Rubbish reception, though.
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I agree, Tze Ming. This is so overblown.
Out of all the jokes made on PA, some of them infinitely more cutting, this one gets all the attention?!
Makes you wonder if there's not some reason for it.
I note that this was your first post in six weeks, which suggests that you might be dealing with competing priorities at the moment. I sincerely hope that the ridiculous direction this thread has taken does not put you off for good.
Looking forward to your returning with a blistering critique of this hypocracy. Kia Kaha.
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We also tend to discount the leap in literacy that has accompanied the mainstreaming of the internet. Yes, you did read that right. How many of us, even us pros, wrote as much 10 years ago as we do now? How many of us ever participated in the kind of lengthy prose debates you see on Public Address System?
That doesn't quite equate with 'literacy' though, does it? The overall standard of written communication has had a slow leak for many, many decades. Even many of the scribes at this city's leading - make that *only* - daily, no longer seem to understand something as basic as the difference between a comma and a full stop, let alone correct or even consistent usage of apostrophes, semi-colons or square brackets.
I've probably made one or two grammatical errors in this comment, but at least it's easy to read and the meaning clear. Much of what's published these days doesn't even reach that level.
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Second link has streaming video of the whole thing.
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NI, is this what you're talking about?
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NI, you could phone and ask them.
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What are you actually embarrassed about 3410?
What did you do?I'm embarrassed by some of my brothers' childish expressions of outrage and their insensitive hijacking of this thread.
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David, I'm very late to this thread, so let me take this opportunity to congratulate you on some excellent insults.
On another topic, why do people continue to misinterpret "Common People"? I mean, really, is it too much to ask that you actually listen to the first verse?. It's not Joyce or Pynchon, is it?