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Hard News: When "common sense" isn't, in reply to Matthew Poole,
I haven’t just made this shit up. I’ve paid attention to years of debates about how to try and reduce our youth road toll.
Nobody is disagreeing that better training and stricter testing for new drivers is a good idea.
But you’re saying that anyone who qualified before the current testing regime is a bad driver. That’s just nonsense, and that’s what we want you to show some evidence for.
But like Stewart, I’m tired of having this conversation in which you diss everybody and seem to willfully misunderstand what we say.
Let’s all be considerate and kind to each other on the road, and all be safe. And let’s lobby for better roads with physical separation of cars and cyclists. Let’s lobby for sideguards on trucks to help prevent cyclist deaths, like Russell says. Let’s be constructive.
I’d much rather do that than argue about who drives badly and get everybody angry and polarised. We need less anger and agression on the road, not more.
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Hard News: When "common sense" isn't, in reply to Matthew Poole,
This whole discussion came about through discourse about drivers who don’t share the road nicely with others.
No, it came about because someone made something up that sounded good to him but which he had no evidence for.
Which is what you have been doing this whole thread.
If you've got some evidence, give it.
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Matthew, you are saying that the people who crash most (young ppl) are actually the best drivers? And that older drivers behave badly on the road but magically don't crash?
You have worked up a nice theory that has no actual connection with reality.
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Hard News: When "common sense" isn't, in reply to Matthew Poole,
Matthew, the public-service ads tell us that young drivers who have just graduated to their restricted licence are in the most danger. These are the people who have just passed all their tests.
If you've got something against older drivers, please back it up with something other than anecdata, hearsay and wild speculation. -
Wow, if only it were compulsory for all road users to be forbidden high horses and compelled to be generous to each other....
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To all those with angry anecdotes who are making angry generalisations about drivers, or cyclists: we've all had bad experiences on the road. But getting angry at a whole group of people because a few of them pissed you off? That just makes everybody madder.
Isn't agression one of the major dangers on the road? Perhaps if we could get past being so angry and bitter and reactive, the roads would be safer for us all.
Let's try and get along, ay?
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Capture: Spring is Like a Perhaps Hand, in reply to Islander,
Islander - the sneaky-snaky-grabby tendrils make excellent cat-toys! :-)
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Hard News: When "common sense" isn't, in reply to Matthew Poole,
There's no longer age-related re-testing, that was scrapped some years ago. Just a medical.
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Spring is over? Here is our wisteria, today!
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Hard News: When "common sense" isn't, in reply to Graeme Edgeler,
And yet hitting cyclists is already against the law. Why is everyone angry with cyclists for getting injured and killed?
No it isn’t. At least not on its own.
Would you like to outline the relevant laws for us Graeme?
