Posts by samuel walker
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They don't know that.
yep, they kinda do, there have been several peaks in sales in short periods after listings on certain private tracker sites. Its pretty easily measurable.
not that i am saying its the answer, but its not all rape and pillage out there. in fact its almost as if the long tail is getting fatter, which is bloody good.he did, and a lot more than brag, no disrespect to billy.
you couldn't highlight those for me could you? I missed them.
ok, you got me on that, I overstated. he does at least provide a call to action, rather than a moody grumble. brag summarises his argument thusly:__If young musicians are to have a chance of enjoying a fruitful career, then we need to establish the principle of artists’ rights throughout the Internet — and we need to do it now.__;without giving any tips how. at least dubber gives some ideas that may shift the paradigm many musicians find themselves facing. and in following posts gives some tips towards actually selling and profiting in the online environment.
so contrary to dubbers vibe there isn't an upside yet.
good, glad we've got that cleared up :)yep, I do think he provides some valuable insights into valid techniques that don't follow the mainstream models though. its good to have someone analysing and sharing ideas from that perspective.its gotta be a lot more helpful than the million and one doomsayers that normally get the publicity.
Data is information,
and a commodity too.
heh, we could keep twisting this forever. Also energy, information is energy therefore data is energy.
how do you see a second internet manifesting itself
i have no idea, remember how how the internet looked twenty years ago? thirty? If governments actually manage to control the internet that way it will lose a LOT of its appeal. and renegades will appear and adapt. and they will work out how to go global. and it would look like nothing we could conceive of now. but as i said, i will be surprised if that turns out to be necessary.
I think we actually agree on a lot, thanks for the food for thought.
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dubber didn't offer insight into anything but the one side of his argument.
he did, and a lot more than brag, no disrespect to billy.
there are a LOT of positives in this new world, while we are working out how to earn from it we may as well embrace the positive aspects. its not all 'how i learned to stop worrying and love the bomb' at all. and anyone that claims to have any kind of solution at the moment is not to be trusted anyway.
I know some slightly niche globaly recognised artists that are doing better out of it than they were in the early nineties. and their risk level has dropped as cost of production entry has almost disappeared. They wont go so far as to say they dont care about the work being shared, but when i mention that their latest has appeared on xtracker with several hundred downloads and a link to beatport they dont squeal that they are losing money; they know it will actually lead to more sales. its not the final point, but its getting better.
And car phone warehouse. I can't even take that name seriously
they turnover about 4 billion pounds a year. Like Canadian Tire their name belies their power. TalkTalk has about 3 million internet customers. over 10% of the uk market i believe. So its not just some small isp making a noise. Telecom NewZealand has less than 2 million customers totally.
Last I checked you weren't allowed to traffic drugs through the post
I dont think the argument is as simple as comparing it to traffiking/smuggling. Data is information, no border risk, no drug risk, no hoticulture risk, low crime risk; when compared to the physical borders anyway.
I still see a policed internet as a possibility, but a far fetched one. And if it happens a secondary one will just spring up alongside it. That I am sure of.
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(Not to mention that I dispute the premise that a drug problem makes you an unfit parent per se).
agree.....living with a dealer though?.....and P is particularly more destructive than others too.
How's that different from being an actor and playing a despicable character - some do little else?
Every one knows that Guy, for example, on shortland street is a character, not real, that its a fiction. however the popularity or 'real life adverts' featuring actual people and their stories, mental health, abusive spouse, etc....especially when the point of the advert is that these people LOOK innocent at first glance....and that its adverting info/news etc....
not saying its bad, just that I wouldnt do it.....
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on a total tangent, i like the TVNZ banner ads. Jenny's got a P habit!
they are pretty cool, i have seen a couple of different permutations of the advert in various media and find myself actually watching to find out what the twist is. and its relevant to the product in a way that makes me actually remember what its advertising, which so many 'good' adverts fail dismally at.
would any of you model for an advert showing you to be a closet P user? or wife beater.....maybe they use overseas stock pics?
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its starting to unfold in unexpected ways......
it aint over till its over folks,
more proof:
CARPHONE WAREHOUSE refuses to cut off music pirates
4 Apr 2008Carphone Warehouse will become the first UK internet provider to reject the music industry's plans to crack down on customers who download music illegally. In a move that will put the company at odds with the Government, Carphone Warehouse, which sells broadband through its Talk Talk division, called the proposals "unreasonable and unworkable". Music trade body the BPI has proposed a "three strikes" regime that would see those who consistently download pirated material disconnected from the internet. However, Carphone Warehouse chief executive Charles Dunstone said: "We believe that a fundamental part of our role as an internet service provider (ISP) is to protect the rights of our users to use the internet as they choose." He said the music industry was simply seeking to "foist their problems on someone else". The retailers said it would "take every practical and legal step to defend its customers", a statement that puts it at odds with the Government, which has promised to implement legislation by April next year unless ISPs come to a voluntary agreement with the music and film industries. The BPI said: "We are categorically not asking ISPs to become internet police but rather act on information we provide to them."
and a different perspective to mr Bragg, with actual insight into HOW some goals may actually be achieved in this new environment:
dubber:should i be worried about piracy?I’d also suggest that piracy is not something that tends to happen on the scale that the mainstream media seems to suggest. Unauthorised duplication goes on, but not piracy. The idea that these two things are the same is one that major record labels tend to be quite fond of, but it bears no resemblance to either external reality, or what words actually mean.
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Watch the other Brasseye episodes too, you wont be diasppointed.
seconded.
without wishing to detract from the brilliance of Media Lunch. You can see where a lot of their ideas came from....in a good way.
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Shep, you dont think that might be one of those annually recurring "special date related" stories do you?
if it is, its a terribly unfunny one.
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worse for the environment.....
thats kinda what I was thinking,plus the various factors around candles....supply/transit/packaging costs etc; dont wanna be too much of a grinch about it though. I guess the point of the exercise is to make people realise where they can make a difference, and have fun without using lots of power.
The family moaning about others with lights on whilst driving around to check is hilarious though.
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www.j*t*g*nt.co.nz.......
wow, i think this is the first time i have seen pure spam here at P.A.S.
....in terms of launching an online business, I would think you would be a LOT more savvy in comunicating with your potential customers. Way to create a bad name from the start!
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you won't get the usual unlikely torrent of prose from me. I'll pop in on Thursday with links to the various internet iterations of our work, on the main site, TVNZondemand and, yes, even YouTube.
so instead of the 'torrent of prose' we may be getting a prose on torrents.........
ahem,,,,,,,,yep, i think i will be keeping the day job!