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Up Front: The Up Front Guides: All Things in Moderation (Awaiting Approval)

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  • Russell Brown,

    I am prostrated before your ability to codify.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22849 posts Report Reply

  • Raymond A Francis,

    That is soooo funny
    And isn't it nice that PA has managed so well to avoid the obvious pit falls........obvious when codified of course

    45' South • Since Nov 2006 • 578 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    I am prostrated before your ability to codify.

    Dude, pics or it didn't happen.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    That xkcd bot experiment reminds me of ROBOT 9000, which was a sub-board of 4chan with pretty much the same parameters - anyone posting a phrase or image previously posted was blocked from posting for a few minutes, as opposed to regular 4chan boards where every post is famously a repost of a repost repost.

    Moaning from regulars about repetitive unoriginal content began the experiment, and R9K is quite popular, but only in the sense that it's a particular version of the 4chan game rather than The Way Things Should Be. The regular boards are still doing much better, which just goes to show.

    Anyhow, carry on.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1611 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    Gah - serve me right for not even following to the first line of the xkcd link, where I would have found that /r9k/ actually came from there. Disregard my witterings above.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1611 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Yeah, xkcd has a certain 4chan-ness about it. I guess that makes the bot not quite as innovative as I was making it out to be, but I really like that post, the way he lays out the problem, the various solutions and their flaws. The solution was chosen with their specific community in mind, and I think for them it does its job. It's probably not a solution with broad applications, though I am intrigued by the effects of making people think about a new way to say something old, even if it is just 'debian blows goats' or whatever.

    And isn't it nice that PA has managed so well to avoid the obvious pit falls........obvious when codified of course

    I might have said this before, but every time I find myself talking about this to a NZ audience, I end up saying 'okay, you know Public Address?'. Saves a lot of time.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Some sites, I wish they'd set political sidewalls and delete everything from left or right of that. I think The Standard is headed that way. Mind, I guess I'd only be able to comment on Indymedia.

    Also, I miss the "kill" function of rn & xnews (show me no more from a given person). I have considered building a cross-site comment manager that would recreate killfiles, amongst other stuff.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    O/T (that's cool, right?), but Emma, here's some good news, after 22 years of substandardness.

    Apple Corps Ltd. and EMI Music are delighted to announce the release of the original Beatles catalogue, which has been digitally re-mastered for the first time, for worldwide CD release on Wednesday, September 9, 2009...

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    Say you write a sports blog, and every now and then someone complains that you talk about a popular sport too much.

    Ummmm...?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    ... the release of the original Beatles catalogue, ...on Wednesday, September 9, 2009...

    Same day the Beatles Rock Band comes out. Coincidence?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Also, I miss the "kill" function of rn & xnews (show me no more from a given person).

    I am intrigued by this idea, though I don't think I want to sign up to its newsletter. What worries me, I guess, is the possibility of getting so many people with different commenters 'killed' that everyone is in essence having a different conversation from everyone else.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    ... the release of the original Beatles catalogue, ...on Wednesday, September 9, 2009...

    Same day the Beatles Rock Band comes out. Coincidence?

    I have been in High Squee Mode all day about this. The last. CDs. I'll ever. buy!

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Sue,

    sometimes emma, i think the level of your awesomeness is so huuuge it's impossible to measure

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 527 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    Say you write a sports blog, and every now and then someone complains that you talk about a popular sport too much.

    Ummmm...?

    Go on Hadyn, say it...

    Another example would be having an explicitly environmentalist blog and someone complaining about you banging on about global warming all the time. The 'why are you talking about this/why aren't you talking about this' complaint boggles me particularly because surely the answer is 'because it's my fracking blog and I can talk about what I want'.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    that everyone is in essence having a different conversation from everyone else.

    I think it's called "Twitter".

    Anyway, must go. Must make TV. They pay me.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22849 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle,

    sometimes emma, i think the level of your awesomeness is so huuuge it's impossible to measure

    Word up.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Cool post Emma. I've been playing 'Attack' on facebook lately (Risk®). They have an ultra conservative bot mod, tuned to censor danger like 'sex','homosexual', even 'homophobia'. If you keep on with the expletives, they bump you off, when you come back there are small glitches, i.e. not being able to see your cards, random troop placement etc. Damn well works too.

    http://apps.facebook.com/attackgame/

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    sometimes emma, i think the level of your awesomeness is so huuuge it's impossible to measure

    Word up.

    You guys will make me blush. Which I'm almost sure is still possible.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Public Servant on a tea-break.,

    Say, did anyone else check the 'Top Troll' site? Dearie, dearie me.

    I just thought, if only we could enter Dad4Justice - that title could be won by a local boy.

    It's all about "Putting New Zealand on the map" people.

    Wellington • Since Apr 2008 • 67 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    What worries me, I guess, is the possibility of getting so many people with different commenters 'killed' that everyone is in essence having a different conversation from everyone else.

    That's precisely what happened in a number of newsgroups I used to follow in the dying throes of Usenet. It was SAD.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    That Top Troll link is brilliant. What happens to the winner? 120th trimester abortion?

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    From 't Hand Mirror

    We like inclusive language, and we know we're not perfect at that either - so when we get it wrong we call each other on it gently, as we might a dear friend.

    Doin' it (the Lang-goo-arge) gently and inclusively, I had a flashback just then. And not a pleasant one. Should I harden up?

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    They have an ultra conservative bot mod, tuned to censor danger like 'sex','homosexual', even 'homophobia'. If you keep on with the expletives, they bump you off, when you come back there are small glitches, i.e. not being able to see your cards, random troop placement etc. Damn well works too.

    For certain values of 'work', I guess - particularly for something like that where talking isn't the chief function. In general I'm not fond of 'bad words' moderation because it assumes that all of particular language is abusive, and that all abuse uses particular language. Good for unintentional hiliarity, though.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • James Butler,

    Good for unintentional hiliarity, though.

    Clbuttic!

    Auckland • Since Jan 2009 • 856 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    The Up Front Guides

    Can I be the first to pre-order the book?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

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