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Up Front: After the Big Gay Revolution

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  • Steve Barnes,

    Are there any other occupations that become the identifier like that?

    Well yes, there are. I, for one, am totally sick of being reminded that John Key is Prime Minister.
    And, on a totally unrelated note... Has anyone else noticed how tired Finance Minister Bill English is looking these days?.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Are there any other occupations that become the identifier like that?

    Unemployed, immigrant and "Maori or Polynesian" are also popular. I am actually collecting these for a post. This is a good example because if she hadn't been an escort, she would have been a mother, and if she hadn't been a mother, she would have been a woman - not her profession (which is pretty much always stated in the case of men who aren't fathers). And if you're an old woman, you cease to be a mother, and become an elderly woman, unless you have grandchildren, in which case you become a grandmother. Whereas men are sometimes referred to as fathers, but rarely as grandfathers.

    One could go on.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Don't forget "ex-nun".

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Joanna,

    TV3 news used the word 'escort' four times in one of their items on her. I counted. Are there any other occupations that become the identifier like that?

    You're either an escort/stripper or a teacher/nurse. If you're not at either end of the holy scale of morals, you're a woman, or as Giovanni says, you're a grandmother.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 746 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    "Gang member".

    From the same school of correl singers, banging nang patches has reduced the number of new "gang members" in WHanganui.

    Must be time for some more pants.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • st ephen,

    Unemployed, immigrant and "Maori or Polynesian" are also popular.

    Ah yes, as in the recent ODT article about the dangerous Maori on the loose. Good of them to let us know so precisely who we should be wary of. Oh, but wait - they included high resolution, frontal and profile colour photos. So we can see that we only have to be wary of fair-skinned Maoris with rosy cheeks and reddish hair - and with half their face covered by a tattoo of a bulldog...

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 254 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Unemployed, immigrant and "Maori or Polynesian" are also popular.

    Oooh, don't forget "Asian" - which I totally understand, because you Europeans all look the same to me.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    recordari: it is recorded that just before a festival of Shavuos there was a shortage of sour cream for blintzes in the village of Chelm. The elders held a crisis meeting. One of them had a bright idea -- pass an ordinance that water was to be known as "sour cream", and sour cream was to be known as "water". Then there would be plenty of sour cream to go around. Every household would have a barrel full. Genius! The elders were very pleased with themselves and duly passed the ordinance.

    Some people subsequently complained about the water shortage. But this was put off as business to difficult to resolve immediately, and to be considered after the holidays.

    Of course, Chelm was a mythical village of idiots.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    If I mention the term "ex-gay" I will expect, and accept, any quantity of desks hitting my head. Throw them on down. You probably won't reach my total when I found a whole Australasian website dedicated to it.

    No linkage, it's too close to lunch.

    ETA: Mr Judd. The residents of Chełm may resemble this argument.
    (No offence meant of course, in case in any Chełm-ians are watching)

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    Wow, I had no idea that Chełm was a real place. I blame Singer.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Enough of the blaming, already... Kvetch
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • JackElder,

    As immortalised in Golem's excellent tune, "Warsaw is Khelm":

    The album version has guest vocals by Amanda Palmer, whoever she is. It's a good album: neo-klezmer fun, with lyrics mostly in English.

    Wellington • Since Mar 2008 • 709 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    Damn "gypsy" music! Expel them immediately!

    Oh sorry, forgot, my name's not Sarkozy.

    Is that Sarkasm? Maybe a Sark chasm.

    (PS. I actually love that music)

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    Unemployed, immigrant and "Maori or Polynesian" are also popular. I am actually collecting these for a post. This is a good example because if she hadn't been an escort, she would have been a mother, and if she hadn't been a mother, she would have been a woman - not her profession (which is pretty much always stated in the case of men who aren't fathers). And if you're an old woman, you cease to be a mother, and become an elderly woman, unless you have grandchildren, in which case you become a grandmother. Whereas men are sometimes referred to as fathers, but rarely as grandfathers.

    I hate Unglush. Too many words.

    Just call 'em all "them" or "youse" or if you really hate them "bastards"..

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1590 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    I hate Unglush. Too many words.

    Just call 'em all "them" or "youse" or if you really hate them "bastards"..

    Or maybe Unpersons...

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    "One-armed man"

    Ah, Teh Herald.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    by the bi... she lives with a Gaiman!

    The album version has guest vocals by Amanda Palmer, whoever she is.

    @ Jack the Elder: just in case that wasn't
    an archly rhetorical question...
    I'd assume this is the Amanda Palmer
    in question, a former Dresden Doll...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • JackElder,

    just in case that wasn't an archly rhetorical question...

    It was, and she is.

    Wellington • Since Mar 2008 • 709 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    It was, and she is.

    And she's also Neil Gaiman's finance, which makes her Princess of the Geeks. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Neil Gaiman's finance

    aah the life of a kept man - is he not making
    enough from his books, comics and films?
    :- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Dough. :)

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    OT ish but this person has an alternative outlook which I think I like. :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Here's another woman who cares about general well being.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Sorry for the tread-jack, but I can't resist posting Ted Olson powning Fox News with his mystical "I've actually read the Constitution, cracked open a few books at law school and been closer to a real trial than L&O re-runs" ninja skillz:

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • recordari,

    So society doesn't get to say that marriage should be between a man and a woman, even though society has said that for 1000s of years?

    No, you dumb-ass, it doesn't.

    Next question.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report Reply

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