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Speaker: Are we seeing the end of MSM, and is that a good thing?

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  • Ian Dalziel,

    I read the news today, oh boy!
    In the new news environment this is a 'Sports story'!!

    Arrest for Sir Colin Meads' grandson
    The family of All Black legend Sir Colin Meads is shaken after one of Sir Colin's grandchildren was charged with murder over the killing of a man involved in the Gold Coast drug trade.

    see the 'sport story':
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11642708

    But then again this is the same paper that ran a story on a photo of a cigar stuck in a stone wall...
    see:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11640281

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Senior media figures to set up new news service.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    NZME and Fairfax have applied to the Commerce Commission today seeking authorisation for their merger.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    NZME and Fairfax … their merger


    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Scientist Siouxsie Wiles responds to the smug ignorance of Mike Hosking.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Thanks Ian. One more clip in that vein.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    (Caption:) Whether it’s a milk tanker or a campervan, the tarmac beneath the tyres is crucial to spreading money into the regions.

    For some reason The Herald today chooses to subliminally endorse the idea of driving on the wrong side of the road on NZ highways…
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=11651598
    merely flipping the photo would’ve altered the perception…

    and The Press in their weekend obituary for French advertising magnate, Jean-Claude Decaux, called him an ‘inventer’ in the headline – sigh…

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    It looks like they've taken it from a Tourism NZ video that received a heap of criticism, for exactly that reason, last year.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1141 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to izogi,

    they’ve taken it from a Tourism NZ video that received a heap of criticism, for exactly that reason, last year.

    Hah! That makes it doubly worse - how quickly they forget...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    It looks as if they've changed it. It must have been literally within the last 3 minutes based on when I reloaded the page.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1141 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to izogi,

    It looks as if they’ve changed it.

    I wonder if it was internally corrected, or if it was reader response, or Herald staff lurking on PAS???
    Whichever - good result
    - at last a win for the 'Lefties'!
    :- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell,

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    The new English - on TVNZ

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Herald staff lurking on PAS?

    like they have the time

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Stuff still can't get basic words right , on there site 'front page 'today:

    New blood, new life video
    Four months in hopsital, two weeks in isolation, 44 transfusions and a whole lot of thanks.
    Cops probe baby death
    Mum bought the three-month-old in to Tauranga Hospital but the baby died.

    'Hopsital' - FFS - they aren't even using spellcheck!
    and apparently the police aren't probing the buying of babies ...
    Fairfax's 'Right first time' system seems to be more 'pretty close is good enough' eh?...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    more “first=right time” than any other permutation…

    The process of initially entering a story on the site
    can most aptly be termed “stuffing it up there”.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1941 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to linger,

    “stuffing it up there”

    ..the neologisms continue today Stuff has this heading:
    Marlborough Environment Plan ready for public scutiny
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/80837519/marlborough-environment-plan-ready-for-public-scutiny

    I’m guessing ‘scutiny’ must be a mix of ‘scut work’ and ‘mutiny’
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Mediaworks cans its noon tv bulletin in favour of digital content.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Sacha,

    in favour of digital content.

    ...otherwise known as 'giving us the finger'?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

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    One may be a little snowier than the other but this is an easy mistake to make. After all, when you live in Auckland, Queenstown and Queensland must be almost equidistant.

    Geography? It's seriously overrated.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    many fingers, more often

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to Sacha,

    the media is the massage.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1941 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to linger,

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    the media is the massage.

    apparently had its genesis from a typo as well:

    "Why is the title of the book The Medium is the Massage and not The Medium is the Message? Actually, the title was a mistake. When the book came back from the typesetter's, it had on the cover 'Massage' as it still does. The title was supposed to have read The Medium is the Message but the typesetter had made an error. When McLuhan saw the typo he exclaimed, 'Leave it alone! It's great, and right on target!' Thus, there are now four possible readings for the last word of the title, all of them accurate: Message and Mess Age, Massage and Mass Age."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Medium_Is_the_Massage

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Not a MSM story, but a 2 min video piss-take on the same from the Onion.

    Some Bullshit Happening Somewhere

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

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    Stuff’s business section is currently leading (see screengrab) with what could be an important story for NZ media. The headline on the corresponding story adds validity, shouting – "Merger mania steps up a notch with report TVNZ, MediaWorks in talks".

    My bullshit detector suddenly started making loud whooping noises, so I poked around for confirmation. The report/rumour is credited to The Australian but that’s locked behind a paywall, so here’s the cached version. The original story focuses primarily on the chaotic bomb-site that is Mediaworks today, with just a single line relating to TVNZ.

    Sources said the group had held merger talks with state-owned broadcaster TVNZ, although a deal would spark competition concerns.

    Apparently “unnamed sources” are behind the rumour. Someone in Paula Benefit’s office perhaps? Or some dude who changed his name to Unnamed Sources by deed poll? The only comment from TVNZ so far has been “no comment”. The rumour is being repeated by the Herald, the ODT and NewstalkZB, adding yet further credibility.

    Meanwhile TVNZ continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel in its quest for ratings. While a merger would provide total dominance of free-to-air broadcasting in this country, TVNZ already outrates TV3 across the board and it’s hard to see them wanting to further dilute their product or pour more money into what is quickly becoming a sunset industry.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Johnson,

    Barry Soper can’t write. Let’s be honest. If he handed that crap in to a ncea exam he would be rewarded with a tiny mark, maybe a fail. I’m being honest. It feels like he is writing drunk.

    He is paid by one zed be to be a National cheerleader because he is one, he seems to think Labour are all suspect commies, in an aching Mike Moore kind of way, I get that,but Jesus at least have the fucking decency to attempt to write as well as the poor print journalist whose column you replaced. I really am getting sick of zb radio folk writing. They can’t write and they can’t seem to produce a logical commentary. So bad.

    hamilton • Since Mar 2016 • 99 posts Report Reply

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