Hard News: Yet More Hobbit
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I'd say if you're the outfit contracting to produce the films, industrial relations stability would be a concern shared with its financial backers at the studios.
I am confused as to how exactly he's trying to keep the film in NZ, is all, when everything he's saying endorses Warner's position.
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I'd say if you're the outfit contracting to produce the films, industrial relations stability would be a concern shared with its financial backers at the studios.
Well, yes. Especially when the highest profile actor in the cast is more likely to pray away his gay than commit career suicide by breaking a do not work order the union he's belonged to for over forty years is a party to.
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surely that will sweeten things a bit.
It sweetens it for me. At least some piece of NZ has managed to hold onto this balls-up.
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"I'd call it a win for global unionism, and after the local film industry has stagnated for a decade or so with regard to international productions, I could see the next generation of those involved on all sides lobbying the government to follow Ireland's example for allowing collective contracts in order to be part of the global film industry."
This is exactly what the New Zealand Writer's Guild had (past tense?) literally set as the high priority focus for the next two years. So you can imagine my reaction to all this...
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This is exactly what the New Zealand Writer's Guild had (past tense?) literally set as the high priority focus for the next two years. So you can imagine my reaction to all this...
Shit -- really? Could do you do me a favour and expand on this topic in the discussion for this morning's new post on the debacle? I'm really interested.
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And if anyone -- including you, Helen -- could post a link to the text of the do not work order being lifted I'd be grateful
Doesn't exist, yet. Perhaps we could get a up boycott deathwatch?
It ain't over till SAG sings.
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Shit -- really? Could do you do me a favour and expand on this topic in the discussion for this morning's new post on the debacle? I'm really interested.
Well, it's hard to talk about because it's something we've been working on with our international unions. All writer's unions around the world except for the US and Canada work in a very similar system to us, complete with pink books type stuff, recommended rates etc.
So we've been having some discussions about what to do about that.
Basically, the lobbying aspect would just be common sense stuff: various ways of gaining public support and then some political will out of that, because you need to make the govt think there's some significant votes in it for them, or at least losing some significant votes if they don't do it. Obviously, I can't go into the specifics of those strategies though, but they were being worked on.
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Has anyone seen an attempt to crunch numbers on the costs of the actors demands. How much would it add on to costs?
It's not really that. The Hobbit actor contracts were already going to be far more generous than any viable industry agreement could be.
It's more the risk of an environment where production shuts down for a month (which it effectively just has). That costs a lot of money.
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Yeh, but they slow shit down all the time, they rip their own people off, they can movies. ...but I understand your point, big money wets itself because no one wants to own the next "Heavens Gate" .
This is a strange industry.
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Hi all, I would just like to respond to the comments about Peter Jackson supporting local filmmakers and there being no further comments/stories of this support.
In 2007 I made a self-funded short film called "The Shoe Box" and had the help and support of lighting company Portsmouth Hire and Park Road Post.
I have also experienced this several times in the last three years and as such have an incredible amount of respect and admiration for them. Any depictions of SPJ as a power-hungry and money-grabbing evil film director/producer are completely wrong. If he was money-grabbing, why would he have that mandate to help a bunch of us upcoming filmmakers at all - surely he would be charging us full price for everything! If you live in Wellington and area filmmaker, you will likely have been helped in some way by his companies and I am so disappointed in a lot of people who have turned against him over this. He and his team deserve much better than this!
and that's all I have to say about that.
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Thanks, Chaz. We've heard similar stories on other threads and it disappoints me how fast some have leapt to demonise the man to fit into a good/bad, boss/union worldview as if they don't have the wit to acknowledge what's actually going on is more complex and has real people in it. That includes the ridiculous recent attacks on Russell and this community as somehow being traitors or scabs for having the affront to expect competent behaviour from those acting in the interests of working people.
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And the Techos Guild is a union, too. And hardly what I'd call a yellow union either.
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Bee,
The hobbit dispute and the Machiavellian Simon Whipp has parallels to me with the wide-comb dispute in the Oz shearing industry of some years ago - pitting Oz shearers against NZ shearers, if anyone remembers that. My sister was rousying in a shearing gang in the '80s, hence we followed the dispute.
A fascinating history is here http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/lab/90/omalley.html
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Bee, that is an extremely interesting link - thanks!
And *does* have resonances...
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Islander
sounds like it's been a stressful day in Okarito
any word on the missing whitebaiter?
how's everyone else? -
Ian Dalziel - the bloke is almost certainly dead. He was a 77yrold of Dutch extraction who jumped in after 2 other blokes were swept out by a rogue wave (those 2 were subsequently rescued by - there is a bit of local controversey - locals who used boats & rubber duckies (it's been reported it was official jetski & rescue craft - all I can say is my nextdoor neighbour was the one pouring The Frog into one of our other neighbours after he had taken his small useful craft out-)
The choppers and shore quadbike patrols stopped way before dark. The missing bloke was wearing a wetsuit, which means he has a slim slim chance.
Everyone is feeling grim. The last time we lost someone was nearly couple of decades ago. We will need to close the beach for fishing (naturally)
from now on, until the body is recovered. Aue aue aue!-grief for the missing fisher's family, grief for all who engage with the sea, grief for a season abruptly terminated- -
O, & thanks good Ian-
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Thoughts are with you all in the Big O.
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Thank you Just Thinking-
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"When Glenn Tinirau went dead
(he had a lovely smile)
he wore gumboots and a swannie
and his grin as he went up the line
warmed all us older slower folk:
Go boy! we said
and he did, up to the top, into the surf,
a sure proud young man
and his dog, panting along, onshore:
the wave came,
he was out in front with 2 older men -
bulkier? You understand?
Glenn was adolescent, slim-
the men in wetsuits got ashore but
the wave got him.
We waited nearly ten days before
the body came ashore-some call that closure,
some call that grace
but I think Takaroa
returns some loved to their place-" -
I'm a NZ actress and an actor friend who has adverse views to me emailed me to ask some questions. I've placed my answers on a FaceBook note on the link above.
Please feel free to have a read.
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Hi Yvette, there's about 3 hobbit threads floating about- the current one is:
http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,2769,hard-news-anatomy-of-a-shambles.sm
Just if you're wondering why no one is replying...
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Hmmm.
Worker sacked for race-based Hobbit casting
Updated at 4:07 pm todayA casting assistant from The Hobbit has been sacked for applying race-based critieria while casting extras.
A spokesperson for director Sir Peter Jackson's WingNut Films, which is producing the film, says the only criteria they have for casting hobbits is based on age and height.
However, they say the casting assistant, employed by WingNut as a contractor, applied his own criteria which was that people had to have a pale complexion.
The spokesperson says that is unacceptable and they have dismissed the casting assistant.
Copyright © 2010, Radio New Zealand
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Hmmm indeed. Especially in light of the striking hues in the LotR movies (yes, I still haven't got over the bad brown middle-eastern pirates, thanks for asking).
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The spokesperson says that is unacceptable and they have dismissed the casting assistant.
Must have been on a contract or the 90 dayer???
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