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Hard News: Thursday Music: Doing the Business

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  • Russell Brown, in reply to Tony Siu,

    Wow. So its not so big studio in NY or something…

    Nope. Light-industrial area in Morningside, Auckland.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    She's looking at vinyl: not pods or pads or CDs!

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Samuel Scott,

    Sprawl II is super duper. I always thought it was sorta their The Knife tune.

    It has a similar glory to this tune.

    South Wellington • Since Feb 2008 • 315 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    Oh, Judith

    No consistency, I thought this government
    was all about the 'strip mining'...


    ..and as an aside, I can't believe we all helped pay for, and build, the new Mighty River Power geothermal power station,that we suddenly now only half own!
    What a generous country....

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Attachment

    Arthur Ahbez last night -- and a background interview in which this blog gets a namecheck!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Alec Morgan,

    Audio Culture briefing at Auckland Library was great. What a rich seam of music knowledge amongst the attendees.

    Simon and Murray have taken on a mammoth task. Waiting for my Uncle Murdoch Riley’s 60s Viking Record Label to appear on AC list! He’s been interviewed apparently. This project needs input from writers, and most importantly punters, (Rhumba Bar anyone...) contributing memorabilia like tickets and showbills.

    Tokerau Beach • Since Nov 2006 • 124 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Sjorn,

    Incredible reading of the Royals lyrics by some - this article one much more blatant.

    http://feministing.com/2013/10/03/wow-that-lorde-song-royals-is-racist/

    Lorde is deep in the middle of the cultural whirlpool now isn't she?

    New Zealand • Since Sep 2013 • 39 posts Report Reply

  • Lyndon Hood,

    Royals parody thingy that I happened to have ready for yesterday. Basic idea pretty obvious, attached audio not done with great care.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1115 posts Report Reply

  • Alec Morgan, in reply to Simon Sjorn,

    Not wrong Simon, hard putting the context/meaning thing on a youngster . Sure industry people signed off on Lorde as the initial commenter on your link says but so did someone on the various sexist rap swaggerers she may have got some of her imagery from.

    “they did it too” is rarely a justification, but, but, many musicians have a bleat about the industry at some stage, Van Morrison being a major culprit, Pistols–“EMI”, Neil Young, Lou Reed–“Metal Machine Music”, from earlier days.

    Tokerau Beach • Since Nov 2006 • 124 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Alec Morgan,

    Audio Culture briefing at Auckland Library was great. What a rich seam of music knowledge amongst the attendees.

    Thanks Alec and great to talk to you. We have a bigger Murdoch story coming but Viking has just gone live http://audiocultu.re/18zs431

    Also just live is The Ainsworths http://audiocultu.re/1aQD4dS featuring a very young Adam Holt, some 32 years before he was the quiet keyman behind the Lorde scenes.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3283 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Simon Sjorn,

    Like the Marixst critique discussed previously here, this is a commentary from someone so caught up in her POV she doesn't get how goddamn imperialist it is. Yes, a kid in New Zealand is going to to see the Jay Z/Kanye album (which is the specific root of the lyrics) as distant and irrelevant to her life with her friends. Fucksake.

    Also. Lorde met Kanye in London the other week. He shook her hand.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I bet this fun looking space Rom-Com will also be, 'doing the business' this weekend...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Grant McDougall,

    Which politician will be first to contrive a photo opp with Lorde - Key or Cunliffe ?

    Also, presuming she's more or less as popular in a year as she is now, what will be the more potent endorsement next year - a cup of tea in Epsom or a tweet from Lorde saying "I like politician / party 'X' (or words to that effect) ?

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2006 • 760 posts Report Reply

  • Tim Michie, in reply to Grant McDougall,

    I've no idea when her birthday is (nor am I seeking that info) but in a year from now she'll have another birthday before ahe could vote and 2018 the next general election eligible. Her peers might take her endorsement but they're in the same situation.

    Something that does appeal to me: If you're entitled to vite but unsure which candidate, why not ask someone presently unable to vote? It would mean some living in New Zealand whose opinions aren't counted are somewhat accounted.

    Auckward • Since Nov 2006 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand, in reply to Grant McDougall,

    I get the feeling that she is more of a Cunliffe person than a Key person. An insightful review of Heroine by Nick Bollinger today.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2560 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Grant McDougall,

    Which politician will be first to contrive a photo opp
    with Lorde – Key or Cunliffe ?

    Mallard, surely!
    Angling for tickets....
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Star Wars...

    Light-industrial area in Morningside

    Industrial Light and Magic?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I’ve no idea when her birthday is (nor am I seeking that info) but in a year from now she’ll have another birthday before ahe could vote and 2018 the next general election eligible.

    November she said in some inteview. So theoretically she could make the cut, but unlikely.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Tim Michie,

    If you're entitled to vite but unsure which candidate, why not ask someone presently unable to vote? It would mean some living in New Zealand whose opinions aren't counted are somewhat accounted.

    Great idea

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Lyndon Hood,

    pretty obvious

    Highlights how smart the original lyrics are.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Dean Papa,

    Apparently Queen Bee is not a reference to Beatrice Faumuina, as I'd initially thought. It's Beyonce, or someone else, I read somewhere. Or maybe it could still be Beatrice Faumuina, someone should ask Lorde to confirm, or maybe it is whoever the listener wants it to be?

    Auckland • Since Dec 2011 • 31 posts Report Reply

  • Alec Morgan, in reply to Dean Papa,

    She could take a cue from old dudes once put under the spotlight from time to time like Bob Dylan and Steely Dan–say anything, and leave ’em guessing.

    Tokerau Beach • Since Nov 2006 • 124 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Like the Marixst critique discussed previously here, this is a commentary from someone so caught up in her POV she doesn’t get how goddamn imperialist it is. Yes, a kid in New Zealand is going to to see the Jay Z/Kanye album (which is the specific root of the lyrics) as distant and irrelevant to her life with her friends. Fucksake.

    Quite. Stupid dumbhead that columnist. I wanted to swear lots when I read that.

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Like the Marixst critique discussed previously here, this is a commentary from someone so caught up in her POV she doesn’t get how goddamn imperialist it is.

    Yeah, and frankly isn't it adorable listening to American critics magisterially assume their culture, society and politics are universal norms that the rest of the planet MUST be hyper-sensitive to. Of course, it never seems to be a two-way street. As the marketing machine spins up around Ender's Game, what do think are the odds of anyone getting media time in the US to talk about the rather fraught and complex cultural politics of this appropriation of ta moko. (For the record: I'm profoundly uncomfortable with it, but there's no right answer from the Maori Borg.)

    Yes, a kid in New Zealand is going to to see the Jay Z/Kanye album (which is the specific root of the lyrics) as distant and irrelevant to her life with her friends. Fucksake.

    And heavens forfend that anyone anywhere would have, at best, a rather ambiguous relationship with pop music. Believe me, when I was Lorde's age I found 95% of what was on the radio "distant and irrelevant" to the life I was living too. (Number One on my 16th brithday? 'Living Doll' by Cliff Richards and The Young Ones.)

    One last obervation - yeah, I despise a great deal of so-called "bling culture". Not because I have any great difficulty with the idea of young African-Americans having nice things, but because I'm not buying into the idea that the price of upward social mobility for anyone, of any race, is this:

    Now once upon a time not too long ago
    A nigga like myself had to strong arm a hoe
    This is not a hoe in the sense of having a pussy
    But a pussy having no God Damn sense, try and push me

    I've got more than 99 problems, and with crap like this Beyonce's fella is definitely one of mine.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Sjorn,

    I agree with all this stuff defending Lorde - it is absurd and laughable how the Americans don't seem to get the context of this situation - there is obviously a lot of angst about the system over there. The anemic state of the charts, and radio, and what is popular in USA reflects something thats for sure - I don't know if I am qualified to make a guess what that might be but it sure as hell seems pretty ridiculous to lay any issues at the feet of 16 year old girl from the North Shore of Auckland.

    With respect Craig - this song - 99 Problems was from a much earlier album than the one Lorde claims to be directly influenced by and quoting a few lines out of context to make some point about what a dick Jay Z is, does not really seem fair to me. The song, as I understand it, is about racial profiling in USA - about not wanting to be pushed around by a system predicated on making racist judgements. I think Jay Z has been pretty weak for a few years now but he is worthy of a little more attention than scrolling through a few of his lyrics to find something to fit your negative view of him.

    New Zealand • Since Sep 2013 • 39 posts Report Reply

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