Hard News: The Righteous Humour
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Danielle, in reply to
basically a libertarian
Blah.
gives me hope in Americans
Vast swathes of them are perfectly all right. Really.
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Sacha, in reply to
he orates as he thinks
Unlike some aspiring leaders closer to home who unfortunately do the reverse.
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Sacha, in reply to
The bit about getting the best ideas from the competition between the sides needs to be hammered into a lot of tribal voters who are unwilling to countenance the possibility of any valid idea originating from a party other than "their" party.
Word
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BenWilson, in reply to
Vast swathes of them are perfectly all right. Really.
Indeed, a significant number are O for awesome!
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Sacha, in reply to
Obama thanking his campaign staff.
Beautiful. Let's help make more leaders like that, not the whiny selfish boys we seem to specialise in here right now.
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Matthew Poole, in reply to
he orates as he thinks
Unlike some aspiring leaders closer to home who unfortunately do the reverse.
Or some leaders closer to home, who do only the former because the latter is apparently outside their remit.
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Note that you can also watch the whole episode
I do . Daily Show is always there. Maybe not all but there is 23 episodes and 3 up for the past weeks Election lead up to, Election, and of course the one RB links to. So if it ain't on TV it is on line.Full episodes without ads! Plus, Stephen Colbert! I sound like a writing ad. Oh, suppose it helps if your big screen is also your monitor when needed because my lil' lappy would not do. :) (thanks tech savy wonderboy not here but reading eventually.)
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Sacha, in reply to
I'm relaxed about it.
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Yeah, that Daily Show episode was great, but has anyone else noticed how different Stewart's tone has been towards Fox over the last few years. During the GWB years, he focused on the failings of the administration and the Fox clips were used as comedy gravy, but now there's a clear sense of outright contempt for how Fox operates. Simply put, I don't know how "funny" he finds them anymore. And yet somehow, he's funniest to watch when he's at his angriest!
That said, as good as this aftermath was, I do think the 2008 wrap-up was more exciting, if only because there was a palpable sense of relief coupled with a sense of "okay, now we have something new to work with", and the fact they used far more of the rest of the team. Stewart, as good a front-man as he is, often needs his crew (e.g.Oliver,Mandvi, Wyatt Cenac , the recent edition of Jessica Williams etc) to really drive the point home.
I really I wish I liked what Rachael Maddow's show does, but most of the time she grates on me- the fact her "guest correspondents" are usually just pundits who agree with her doesn't help, nor does the sense that I don't know how much journalism the show does in relation to merely commenting on things already covered. I already have the Daily Show for that-- and to give Stewart his due, his range of guests are pretty broad.
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During the GWB years, he focused on the failings of the administration and the Fox clips were used as comedy gravy, but now there’s a clear sense of outright contempt for how Fox operates. Simply put, I don’t know how “funny” he finds them anymore. And yet somehow, he’s funniest to watch when he’s at his angriest!
I think he's come to the conclusion that they're a part of what is messing America up - they have such massive audience numbers, and they're simply misinforming the voters, which then flows through when they vote and perform other public duties.
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Something else y'all might notice about Stewart is he's a tool of the Democrats just as much as Fox is for the Republicans. Like Mr Littlewood says there, he spent eight years talking shit about Bush, now he's talking shit about the people who criticise Obama for doing almost exactly the same things on every single issue.
Now, you can totally do that for valid reasons, in that Obama is ... almost sane. At least less clearly bat-shit crazy than Romney.
Like, Obama believes the US is a perfectly fair country where anyone can literally become president if they just want it, where Romney thinks the US is a country were the noble rich are being dragged down by burden of free-riding socialists which makes the ever-growing number of billionaires very sad (i.e. poor people should become venture capitalists).
Obama believes in creating world peace with huge fleets extra-judicial-murder robots to take out anyone who talks about not supporting their client states. Romney wants to create world peace and prosperity by starting a war with a very large and well armed state who could trivially cut off the world's oil supply.
The latter is clearly even less sane than the former. Dangerously so, even. So it's valid to support Obama, from that perspective. But that is totally what Stewart does.
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math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better!!
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
countability...
math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better!!
Not mathperturbation then?
(he spat playfully)
What's a few deviations between friends... -
Something else y’all might notice about Stewart is he’s a tool of the Democrats just as much as Fox is for the Republicans. Like Mr Littlewood says there, he spent eight years talking shit about Bush, now he’s talking shit about the people who criticise Obama for doing almost exactly the same things on every single issue.
He's certainly left-leaning, but he's also pretty critical about Obama, and he's not a big fan of many democrats. As are some of his staff - John Oliver slagged off Obama in the most recent Bugle.
I'd say he's more into sensible process than picking a side.
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Obama’s “success” as President begins with his mother – the measure of success will be what can be achieved in the next four years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/opinion/11dove.html
Running through Dr. Soetoro’s doctoral research, as through all her work, was a challenge to popular perceptions regarding economically and politically marginalized groups; she showed that the people at society’s edges were not as different from the rest of us as is often supposed. Dr. Soetoro was also critical of the pernicious notion that the roots of poverty lie with the poor themselves and that cultural differences are responsible for the gap between less-developed countries and the industrialized West.
Indeed, Dr. Soetoro found that the villagers she studied in Central Java had many of the same economic needs, beliefs and aspirations as the most capitalist of Westerners. Village craftsmen were “keenly interested in profits,” she wrote, and entrepreneurship was “in plentiful supply in rural Indonesia,” having been “part of the traditional culture” there for a millennium.Based on these observations, Dr. Soetoro concluded that underdevelopment in these communities resulted from a scarcity of capital, the allocation of which was a matter of politics, not culture. Antipoverty programs that ignored this reality had the potential, perversely, of exacerbating inequality because they would only reinforce the power of elites. As she wrote in her dissertation, “many government programs inadvertently foster stratification by channeling resources through village officials,” who then used the money to further strengthen their own status.
Obama is an inspiring guy, the President of a Nation with consderable challenges to face - America could not have picked anyone better - that is the power of democracy.
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I watched a couple of segments of Jon Stewart the other night but today the links to them from here are broken and it seems the Daily Show website is geo-blocked. For someone who is not tech savvy, how do you get round it?
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David Hood, in reply to
but today the links to them from here are broken
As of now, midday Sunday, the embedded clips in the main post are working fine from Dunedin (with no special setup).
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Chris Waugh, in reply to
the Daily Show website is geo-blocked. For someone who is not tech savvy, how do you get round it?
You could try using a VPN to get yourself a US IP address.
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These are the full episodes Roger. I have no problem getting to it either.I just google it.
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Roger, Daily show has never been geo-blocked that I'm aware of - at least to NZ. I've been watching it online for about 7 years now and have never had trouble. I find the full episode watcher somewhat useless, I just watch each clip at www.dailyshow.com/videos day by day.
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The US election just passed me by, glad I missed the hoopla this time, and glad Romney & co didn't get in.
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Tristan, in reply to
Yeah, that Daily Show episode was great, but has anyone else noticed how different Stewart’s tone has been towards Fox over the last few years
yeah I did on page one along with the maddow link…what do people have me blocked or something?
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I really enjoyed media3 last night (sunday) however I saw something alarming.
There were two panel people ( not panel beaters ) discussing the election in USA. One obviously a gentle and thinking democrat………….and a guy called Carl…….both americans…………..there was good banter but Carl really dissapointed me by among some good stuff…………saying stuff that americans say, like what can we know ( read anyone outside america) about american politics……………and yeah Obama may be an empty suit………….but what are the other suits full of……….living in NZ now with his may I say ugly bipartisan views………..maybe he has seen what the suits may just be full of……….out on the farm somewhere. It concerns me that americans come here with such attitudes and spout them on air………………..emperors new clothes…………….we smile and say nothing……….Carl, leave the silly stuff back where it seems happy……………… -
What disturbs me the most about all this is the growing idea that seeing reality accurately shows disloyalty to the party. I expected the "Obama is a socialist UN agent" business but the belief that he wasn't born in the USA - and that neither the FBI nor the CIA would have figured this out at any point - is truly bizarre.
Reality always wins. But will the Republicans take this result as the cold shower they needed or will they double down on the crazy?
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Matthew Littlewood, in reply to
yeah I did on page one along with the maddow link…what do people have me blocked or something?
Of course not :) I guess my rhetorical phrasing of the "did anyone else notice" was a little on the nose. :)
On another note, I suspect the next few months of "bargaining" will provide ample fodder for the Daily Show...whether or not that's a good thing depends on the actual outcome....
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