Hard News: The Next Act
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Kristen Hill, in reply to
Yep, it's amazing how forgiving communities can be when you acknowledge. This is still my favourite example... http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/17/rogue-beer-tweet-by-red-cross-employee-leads-to-donations/
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The advent and prominence of shlock TV is a good reason not to have a TV.
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That's like Godwinning any media thread, right?
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Russell Brown, in reply to
If you can’t do the job without being a bully or an arse then you shouldn’t be doing the job.
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It's not quite that simple. I think it's true that there is a personality type that often succeeds in talk radio and it's an edge one. It's actually not a very normal thing to do every damn day. I still quite often go out after a TV recording or drink a bottle of wine with my curry, just because my mind is whirring. I can't imagine being "on" for three hours, five days a week -- and in Holmes' case, doing it again in the evening.
Iain Stables is an example in music radio. I don't ever listen to his style of radio, but he was hugely successful as a radio jock, especially with young men. People connected with him. Also, a rather lovely man, bipolar and guilty of a few too many acts of senselessness for the good of his career.
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Sacha, in reply to
there is a personality type that often succeeds in talk radio
I'll take your word for it. In TV, though?
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Stephen Judd, in reply to
I called it four days ago. But what a shabby, repellent thing to do. Whatever Karen really needs, it isn't national media exposure.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
I called it four days ago. But what a shabby, repellent thing to do. Whatever Karen really needs, it isn't national media exposure.
Have you actually seen the track? I think Karen's a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for. I wonder if HDPA has found her niche with this show.
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Stephen Judd, in reply to
OK, I’m surprised, and indeed Karen seems well tough enough to deal with some shortlived media attention. But would you admit that it *is* surprising? It could have gone badly.
Perhaps I’m over-sensitive.
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Sacha, in reply to
It could have gone badly
with a less-experienced journo, sure
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Sacha, in reply to
I think Karen's a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for
Held her own
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Russell Brown, in reply to
OK, I’m surprised, and indeed Karen seems well tough enough to deal with some shortlived media attention. But would you admit that it *is* surprising? It could have gone badly.
Perhaps I’m over-sensitive.
No, I totally get how you felt. But the element of surprise is what makes it such an excellent story. One would of course like to think that if they'd tracked down Karen and she was a vulnerable mess, they'd have left it alone.
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Well, I’m not going to comment on the content of seven sharp as everyone else has covered my thoughts pretty much..
But what’s with the fuzzy logo on the desk? Is it some sort of hipster laugh based on how it’s so not sharp at all? If so, it's only very mildly funny- like many other of the "jokes" that fell flat. If it's not intentionally fuzzy, they need to get some better graphics hardware to present the graphic-artists true intentions...
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Jackie Clark, in reply to
I liked her final comment "Pay your debts on time".
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After remembering I could watch seven sharp after my beloved shorty using +1 I tuned it. It looks like a show that has some beeding in to do. I'm optimistic there is so much format material overseas they can hack... Look at seven days
On that note attacking criticism head on...celebrities reading mean tweets is one if the best things ever they should do that bit.
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I looked at the Karen YouTube and then watched the story on Seven Sharp on demand. Yes, it did have some interest in a Chloe of Wainuiomata sort of way and I DO want to keep up with the Zeitgeist. The program as a whole was more coherent from what I saw - all fluff instead of an uneasy mix of fluff and serious. CL had two quite trivial stories but the Novopay segment included an insightful comment on Novopay and Hekia Parata which was what I yearn for after the news.
Sad to think that people of my age are no longer considered a good bet by advertisers so TVNZ has just abandoned us.
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Scott Chris, in reply to
That’s like Godwinning any media thread, right?
What, referring to Jimmy Savile?
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Scott Chris, in reply to
Have you actually seen the track? I think Karen’s a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for.
Hee hee. Let's make fun of a stupid person.
That's how it comes across to me. Bullying.
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
That's how it comes across to me. Bullying.
Even if it's consensual, and the supposed victim is (mostly) aware of the wider context? Like Holmes's last weeks it all seemed a bit Jade Goody.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Hee hee. Let's make fun of a stupid person.
That's how it comes across to me. Bullying.
Did you actually watch it?
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Have Holmes does any actual boots-on-the-ground reporting? Hard interviewing PMs position on matters of national interest? Embedding troops overseas to report from the front line? Telling heart to heart stories about kids (ok,I'll give him the AIDS story as one) Telling the world about NZ? So why on earth are we celebrating a 'journalist'?
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
It’s not quite that simple. I think it’s true that there is a personality type that often succeeds in talk radio and it’s an edge one. It’s actually not a very normal thing to do every damn day.
That’s true, up to a point. Most of us wouldn’t find it terribly “normal” to get up at 4am to start doing prep to go on air at six, and basically stay sharp for three hours, five days a week, forty-odd weeks a year. But Geoff Robinson been doing it for 35 of the last 38 years without turning into a dribbling arsebag. Not that I’m putting Geoff up for sainthood, but I can’t help but wonder what Holmes’ legacy would have been if the worse of the man (and the boradcaster) hadn’t been indulged over and over again with a "that's just Paul being Paul" shrug.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
and basically stay sharp for three hours, five days a week, forty-odd weeks a year.
Well actually most of us will manage 3 hours of our day sharp and probably for 48 weeks of the year if one is not self employed but in employment. I know a builder must remain sharp on the tools, truck drivers I know who get up at 1 am to drive up to 12 hours a day 7 days a week and must stay sharp and 48 weeks of the year. Surgeons, really need to stay sharp, perhaps not 48 weeks, lets say 40. Then nurses ,teachers, fishermen etc etc. So yeah, why on earth even a mention at Waitangi?
Having said that, I declare, never liked him. All the obits before he passed made me feel ill . Like he went to his own funeral and yes, creepy. -
Matthew Littlewood, in reply to
Have you actually seen the track? I think Karen's a hell of a lot more robust than you give her credit for. I wonder if HDPA has found her niche with this show.
Yeah, Karen gave as good as she got, and in reasonable humour, too. And it was a good punchline, too.
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
I know a builder must remain sharp on the tools, truck drivers I know who get up at 1 am to drive up to 12 hours a day 7 days a week and must stay sharp and 48 weeks of the year. Surgeons, really need to stay sharp, perhaps not 48 weeks, lets say 40. Then nurses ,teachers, fishermen etc etc. So yeah, why on earth even a mention at Waitangi?
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Most cleaners work similar hours to radio hosts, with the added burdens of often despotic supervisors and surviving on a pittance. But then they don't have rampant narcissism as an occupational hazard. -
Scott Chris, in reply to
Did you actually watch it?
Yeah… well, some of it. I clicked on your link. Killed it when HD-A did the whip around.
Still, this kind of ‘freak show’ piece seems perfectly acceptable to the sensibilities of our contemporary media establishment. Perhaps you have the groundbreaking desensitizers like Paul Holmes to thank for that.
edit - perhaps I misused the word 'bullying' as I was factoring in an imagined audience reaction. Maybe 'exploitative' would be more apt.
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