Hard News: The Internet in New Zealand
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I don't see how.
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There is really no road back from lamb's brains is there?
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Sadly, no.
One of the things that often gets lost in the discussion around rural broadband is that the distances involved are going to lead to overall reductions in the average speeds of New Zealand broadband connections, even with increased cabinetisation. The most up-to-date DSL technology, VDSL2, is only really useful less than 1 km from the exchange, so that'll be another innovation that doesn't filter through to the majority of the population.
Fibre's a possible solution to this, but I just can't see companies investing seriously in laying dark fibre to rural properties over 5+ km distances any time in the near future. Rural broadband is going to have to look for new solutions; the money that has been offered so far just hasn't been enough.
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I can Google lamb's brains stir fry on my ultrafast connection for you, if you like.
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Do you think I'll ever get this thread back on topic?
I love black pudding, me.
I also found out recently that our local butcher does haggis. It's offally nice
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Do you think I'll ever get this thread back on topic?
to recycle an old pun - Frayed Knot
Mark (10:25) my words - there's about as much chance as getting a camel through the eye of a needle...
that's the internet for ya...
it don't take long for talk of cabinets
to swing to contents of larders..
a recipe for disaster, if you will...
its insidious the whiplash effect
eventually becomes a cascade...the derailment was triggered innocently
on page one, someone said food for thought here
followed soon after by the mention of Orcon
which subconsciously later triggers a Whale mention...
then that Mrs Bratwurst sounds like a silly sausage plus all this talk of fibre led to Healthcare and tea parties by this time the thread was unravelling fast, the ensuing avalanche of blubber, unicorned beefcake, mussel tees and other tripe - well it was always gonna have an offal end...Who says NLP don't work?
so what were you saying about the internet again - of course the gummint is gonna invest heavily in it, if it can keep the population diverted and distracted like this...
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Do you think I'll ever get this thread back on topic?
don't see how.
There is a job going if you wanna backup a couple of posts, seeing as you have some free time ;)
Let's face it RB, Obama won the day, oh and then our stinkin' government stepped in. -
Do you think I'll ever get this thread back on topic?
Let's try:
I want my VDSL2. I believe it will start to be offered as a product sometime in the middle of this year.
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brains
Quick, draft in the theatrical Wellingtonistas
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There is a job going if you wanna backup a couple of posts, seeing as you have some free time ;)
oh and Fairfox wants a political reporter now that Colin Espiner is heading back to the Chch Hub (er Press) to be associate editor...
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I want my VDSL2. I believe it will start to be offered as a product sometime in the middle of this year.
You might, if you wheedle the right people, get in on one of the pilot projects underway right now. I believe that many of the providers utilising Telecom's network via wholesale agreements are actually moving faster on this than Telecom Retail itself.
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Telecom's competitors may bitch righteously about the cabinetisation project, but speeds from our local cabinet reach 10Mbit/s at times.
WARNING - Conspiracy coming up......
Russell - knowing that you are a media techo savvy who seems to have some influence around the place, have you taken the opportunity to check a few neighbours speeds in your street while monitoring yours??
I just wonder .... since the ISPs KNOW you, that they just might...just might mind you...ensure your, shall we say, "internet availability is well catered for".
End of conspiracy.
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Worked out why my Telecom DSL connection was running slow. I went over my limit with two weeks to go.
It'll take up to two days for my account upgrade to be actioned. Compared to Vodafone's instant "double my data" option, that's not very good at all.
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It is time, we as a people rose up and demanded our human right to faster, cleaner, shinyer broadband.
Let me hear you people.
"We Want Fast Broadband"
"When do we want it?"
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WARNING - Conspiracy coming up......
Russell - knowing that you are a media techo savvy who seems to have some influence around the place, .... since the ISPs KNOW you, that they just might...just might mind you...ensure your, shall we say, "internet availability is well catered for".
End of conspiracy.So what are we to make of the power cut
that just hit Point Chev this morning?
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Worked out why my Telecom DSL connection was running slow. I went over my limit with two weeks to go.
One of the gamesmasters in our RPG group is looking to switch to Orcon for that very same reason.
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WARNING - Conspiracy coming up......
Russell - knowing that you are a media techo savvy who seems to have some influence around the place, .... since the ISPs KNOW you, that they just might...just might mind you...ensure your, shall we say, "internet availability is well catered for".
End of conspiracy.I have wondered with with respect to my other connection. But the DSL account is registered to some chick who works for The Listener and watches a lot of TV.
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I've stuck with Telecom for my ISP because about 5 years ago, when I was doing an awful lot of network support for small businesses, mostly running DSL, I found that when things broke for the customers who had an alternate ISP, I had to always deal with buck-passing and run-arounds. 9 times out of 10, the buck actually stopped with XTRA anyway, but they were able to waste an awful lot of my time (I was charging for it so I wasn't particularly bummed - it was extremely lucrative hold-music for me) by bouncing me back and forth to the ISP, I'd have to prove to XTRA that the problem was at their end. But if XTRA provided the service I could righteously leave it at proving that it was not an equipment fault on the site, and then just say "So fix it, I don't care how, they're paying for this service you are not providing". For my own connection, the same thing happened a couple of times and I figured, stuff it, my time is too valuable for Telecom hold music that I'm not getting paid to listen to. Furthermore, the internet is my life-blood. I can't tolerate extended down time.
Maybe things are different now, since LLU. Interested to hear other experiences out there.
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3410,
Can anyone point to Telecom statements on 'net neutrality or recommended tools for testing such?
My so-called "unlimited" plan is an utter dog at the moment.
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They all do traffic shaping - and some more than others.
Woof -
Open to correction on that from anyone who works in the industry - my info not so fresh, I realise.
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3410,
Yo, I need some help with this, fellas.
Telecom has started seriously throttling me on selected targets. I need some reliable proxy ability or something. Any advice would be welcome.
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I can't help with telecom, but I've recently changed from vodafone (who certainly do throttle) to slingshot, who don't seem to clamp down on torrents at least. Great speed at the two houses that I've used it at.
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Vodafone once throttled a torrent of mine down to around 1 kB/s, on full-speed Red Zone broadband.
Less than impressed, was I.
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My flat is on Big Time (Xtra's replacement for Go Large), and I have to say that we're quite happy with it. Yes they throttle torrents except between 0200-0700, but when they take the cap off the data just hoofs on in. For other stuff, it's generally very responsive, even in peak use periods. No data cap is a wonderful, wonderful thing, too. Nobody here worries about what they download, now much YouTube they watch, or what OS updates/versions they might want to download. I've pulled in five OS DVDs in a week in the recent past. How many of you would dare to do that on your home internet connections?
Trying to drag this back to the original point, 10Mb/s is actually not a very impressive target when one considers that it's being set for several years from now. We should be aiming to have a national mean connection speed of at least 25Mb/s, and a median that's more like 40Mb/s, or even more. FTTH will allow gig, and that's what the true aspiration should be.
One of the things I'm finding most depressing about a lot of the debates going on in NZ at present is that they seem to be premised on "Aim low. That way you cannot fail to achieve your goals." We should be shooting for the moon, so that even a failure will be impressive. Instead we're aiming low and not even achieving mediocrity.
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