I find it unlikely that any NZ ISP would have the ability to throttle customers based on the site they're going to.

Site? Yes, quite easily, but it's not normally done. Protocol? Yes, absolutely, and done by the vast majority of ISPs to varying extents, especially to things like BitTorrent.

One of the things I'm finding most depressing about a lot of the debates going on in NZ at present is that they seem to be premised on "Aim low. That way you cannot fail to achieve your goals."

.. when those goals are set by our unambitious business leaders…

I might if knew what that meant. :)

Your distance to cabinet, quality of your line etc. "It's you, not xtra".

What Kyle said. Go into your DSL modem's admin interface and look at things like connection speed, error counts, line noise (if the modem shows it)...
Also, how long's…

I might if knew what that meant. :)

Your distance to cabinet, quality of your line etc. "It's you, not xtra".

Back to broadband issues, TelstraClear has rolled out 25Mb/s cable in ChCh, and will be rolling out in Wellywood soon if not already.

I got to use telstraclear cable in Kelburn over Easter. Downloaded 380 MB of windows updates for a computer, took about 4 times as long to install…

If I were you I'd be looking closely at my connection characteristics

I might if knew what that meant. :)

with slightly less heavy throttling between 0200-0700

I don't know what you're seeing, but I have confirmed to myself that the throttling goes away entirely after 0200. I've seen torrents coming in with a combined rate (several simultaneously) in excess of 10Mb/s. Not bad for a connection that's training up…

My flat is on Big Time (Xtra's replacement for Go Large), and I have to say that we're quite happy with it. Yes they throttle torrents except between 0200-0700

We're on Go Large with the same heavy throttling, with slightly less heavy throttling between 0200-0700. I don't use torrenting, but…

Less than impressed, was I.

Telecom has started seriously throttling me on selected targets. I need some reliable proxy ability or something. Any advice would be welcome.

My so-called "unlimited" plan is an utter dog at the moment.

WARNING – Conspiracy coming up......
Russell – knowing that you are a media techo savvy who seems to have some influence around the place, .... since the ISPs KNOW you, that they just might...just might mind you...ensure your, shall we say, "internet availability is well catered for".
End of conspiracy.

…

Worked out why my Telecom DSL connection was running slow. I went over my limit with two weeks to go.

One of the gamesmasters in our RPG group is looking to switch to Orcon for that very same reason.

WARNING – Conspiracy coming up......
Russell – knowing that you are a media techo savvy who seems to have some influence around the place, .... since the ISPs KNOW you, that they just might...just might mind you...ensure your, shall we say, "internet availability is well catered for".
End of conspiracy.

…

It'll take up to two days for my account upgrade to be actioned. Compared to Vodafone's instant "double my data" option, that's not very good at all.

Telecom's competitors may bitch righteously about the cabinetisation project, but speeds from our local cabinet reach 10Mbit/s at times.

WARNING – Conspiracy coming up......

Russell – knowing that you are a media techo savvy who seems to have some influence around the place, have you taken the opportunity to check…

I want my VDSL2. I believe it will start to be offered as a product sometime in the middle of this year.

You might, if you wheedle the right people, get in on one of the pilot projects underway right now. I believe that many of the providers utilising Telecom's…

There is a job going if you wanna backup a couple of posts, seeing as you have some free time ;)

oh and Fairfox wants a political reporter now that Colin Espiner is heading back to the Chch Hub (er Press) to be associate editor...

brains

Quick, draft in the theatrical Wellingtonistas

Do you think I'll ever get this thread back on topic?

Let's try:

I want my VDSL2. I believe it will start to be offered as a product sometime in the middle of this year.

Do you think I'll ever get this thread back on topic?

don't see how.

There is a job going if you wanna backup a couple of posts, seeing as you have some free time ;)
Let's face it RB, Obama won the day, oh and then our stinkin' government stepped in.

Do you think I'll ever get this thread back on topic?

to recycle an old pun – Frayed Knot
Mark (10:25) my words – there's about as much chance as getting a camel through the eye of a needle...
that's the internet for ya...
it don't take long for talk…

Do you think I'll ever get this thread back on topic?

I love black pudding, me.

I also found out recently that our local butcher does haggis. It's offally nice

One of the things that often gets lost in the discussion around rural broadband is that the distances involved are going to lead to overall reductions in the average speeds of New Zealand broadband connections, even with increased cabinetisation. The most up-to-date DSL technology, VDSL2, is only really…

I had lambs brains once, but I found it too fatty. I never realized brains had so much fat up there.

But I draw the line…

I'm a child of the '60s and I like tripe, done well. Eaten it as such in Slovenia and Italy for eg. I also like liver (cow, sheep, chicken or whatever), kidney (steak and, yum!), pan fried lambs brains (melt in delight), haggis (chopped lambs lungs amongst others), I…

A degree and recognised professional qualification and ideally a post graduate qualification in information management.
Experience in the information service areas of an academic or research library.
Experience in the use of relevant information resources including commercial databases and…

Islander – That's gotta be one of the best come-back lines ever!

Reckon

I'd definitely support the "Tokyo Two" but that website is neither secure nor easy to negotiate.

a LOT of Japanese will not eat cetaceans

Apparently whaling in Japan goes back only as far as McArthur, who encouraged the whaling industry as a source of cheap protein after WW2.

They lose large amounts of money whaling and piss off their trading partners.

I can only assume that…

she has never been back since. I hope it wasn't my lack of hospitality....

I hope you didn't eat her.
The whaling thing is pure pragmatism, you cannot negotiate with someone that won't listen or talk because your viewpoint is so far from theirs. One step back two steps forward.
As…

Are we actually agreeing that 10Mbits/s is considered a good broadband speed? What we are being asked to pay for this "broadband" is the real issue.. This would be considered a lazy dial up speed in many countries..

If 10 Mbit/s was our average broadband speed, we'd be second in…

There seems to be a rather small minority who have decided – THIS is a matter of being Japanese! How dare anyone go against our cultural sensitivities here?

These not-so-silent-minority Tojoites didn't count on their fellow citizens blowing the whistle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=473Fk1i4sJg

I said, "One of our traditions was eating people. We've managed to stop."

Sarah North – exactly that. It is a…

Norway and friends have stronger claims on grounds of…

Anyone amongst those who are actually (ostensibly) represented by the NZ govt, though?

Not this time – any potential "gains" are indirect through trade agreements and associated sucking up. Downsides much more obvious, including reputation damage like we've already suffered with these bozos in climate change and now with plans…

The Japanese government, 3410

Big daddy United States, of course

Right. Anyone amongst those who are actually (ostensibly) represented by the NZ govt., though?

The Japanese government, 3410 (quite a different matter from the people of Japan.) The grabbernments of Norway, Iceland, and various hangers-on. Human with minds like their digestive systems, especially the end part.

I don't think it's even about the food – it's about national pride, and that's why it's so…

Phuque o dear, some times I think we – H. sap. sap – truly are deeply & permanantly insane. I mean, a kind of majority of voters here…

I mean, who even wants that?

Big daddy United States, of course – dangling a "free" trade agreement before all those impressionable boys in cabinet.

We must kill the whales to save them.
Yep. getting more than a bit embarrassing, this lot.

And, with this present grabberment (o hey, I like it), we (as in the people of ANZ) are…

I don't know what to make of that?

The word "suffer" was a clue – but really, I just want one of those machines (and I don't use a wheelchair).

Lucy: I think the tea partiers know very well what they're arguing about.

Then they are doing their very best to hide all evidence of the fact. Signs like the one I mentioned have gone somewhat beyond hyperbole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fRSQ4L-SI

This has been the most maddening thing to watch take shape. Sometimes, the petulant liberals blaming Obama for everything were near as bad as the Republican nutjobs screaming "NO!" at everything that moved.

Well, actually, they weren't that bad.

There was a photo in the press today of a protester…

Democrats: WHERE THE &#%&@ IS MY GODDAM UNICORN?!!

Obama is riding it of course.

Can we reach exalted reputation with the Silver Covenant? Yes we can!

Democrats: WHERE THE &#%&@ IS MY GODDAM UNICORN?!!

Obama is riding it of course.

(My girlfriend made me buy that t shirt for her during the primaries)

Sometimes, the petulant liberals blaming Obama for everything were near as bad as the Republican nutjobs screaming "NO!" at everything that moved.

John Rogers has a quote for every occasion:

Last fall:

Republicans: Jesus, you're just voting for Hopey McChangey because he's a great speaker and he's promising unicorns and…

Healthcare for the USA.
Welcome to the civilised world, guys :)

This has been the most maddening thing to watch take shape. Sometimes, the petulant liberals blaming Obama for everything were near as bad as the Republican nutjobs screaming "NO!" at everything that moved.

Well, actually, they weren't that bad.

Healthcare for the USA.
Welcome to the civilised world, guys :)

That's a good start.

And those "No-ones" are the Councils we are fighting to keep.

Not on their own – where's the private sector, or government for that matter? Most of the urban Economic Development Agencies have dark fibre as a priority, but that hasn't necessarily been joined up with other services or the…

I put a proposal to Auckland City Council a few years back about running FTTH through the sewers, you can guess the response "Too Hard, too dangerous for teh workers, blahh blahh blahh" I was Not the first to come up with this concept.

Not that it's a completely terrible…

and no one has appeared to realise that ducting would be an excellent investment.

Ant those "No-ones" are the Councils we are fighting to keep. It has been said that this sort of thing won't happen under the New Improved Cleaner Whiter Stronger Righter Supercity.
I still stand by the…

no one has appeared to realise that ducting would be an excellent investment

Wonder if that might be improved with the proposed Auckland Transport CCO owning the boundary-to-boundary width of all the region's roading including berms and footpaths?

I understand multi-service ducting has similar issues to "fibre to the door"…

I put a proposal to Auckland City Council a few years back about running FTTH through the sewers, you can guess the response "Too Hard, too dangerous for teh workers, blahh blahh blahh" I was Not the first to come up with this concept.

What bugs me is that nearly…

Just as well I have redundancy. Wired Country is going nicely.

just watch out world when i start rockin broadband. Only trouble is, it's making me even more anti social than i already was...

...and i bet i'm not…

The big divide isn't around income or ethnicity, but age. Old folks are much less likely to use the internet than young people.

The report concludes that wealth is a factor in access and usage of broadband services, which is hardly surprising. It seems to show the second strongest correlation…

It's not a simple issue. Cabinetisation effectively stopped Vodafone, Orcon etc from investing to take advantage of LLU — but the impact for consumers has been extremely positive, especially where I live.

It's not simple at all, and Vodafone and Orcon both deserve bouquets for the massive amount of early…

Digital divide still alive and well.

Maybe part of this is the way the medium dominates the message.

If you have a group discuss the internet, chances are they'll probably include people who know how TCP/IP works and the details of HTML.

A group discussing television will most likely not…

I doubt they'd want to. They'd vote something like once a year for senior management and supervisory roles and on broad policy mandates.

Digital divide still alive and well.

this is the one I know, is there another?
LL&P :- )

whether it's because Telecom is provisioning accounts better, or because Voda didn't get a level playing field.

Hmmmm. food for thought here. Lines in my locale have detriorated significantly since my move to Orcon. I'm now down to 2.7 Mbs from 3.7 in a year with three line failures. An…

I really cannot imagine that the antics of NZ will influence the market for this stuff.

In light of the ongoing scandals in churches etc. this might serve as a distraction.

It also contributes to the illusion of doing something useful.

The best form of prevention is prevention discuss…

Yes, you are correct that the members are basically picked by the DIA. Personally I'm still astounded that Steve O'Brien, the manager of the Censorship Compliance Unit, is on the oversight group that is meant to be overseeing…

Perhaps it is me, but I find this shit rather offensive given that a filter has no ability to prevent the instrumental abuse of children.

I think the argument is that if you reduce access to those images, you'll also limit their production. It doesn't strike me as unreasonable.

"The real issue behind this is the children that are abused to make these images."

Perhaps it is me, but I find this shit rather offensive given that a filter has no ability to prevent the instrumental abuse of children.

There is no form of control over the business direction and no concept of balancing…

One thing Gattung said when she was interviewed on NatRad recently really intrigued me: that most NZers in her view wanted Telecom to be run like a public utility and would be happier if it were an SOE.

New Zealanders do have a really strong sense of ownership of Telecom…

It is important to acknowledge that there is a level of progress in terms of network diversity that we would not have…

Apropos Telecom: my plan.

A buy-back! Interesting!

Would existing Telecom investors run for the door? Hold out for an above-market price?

Apropos the DIA filter: I would like a little more focus on the (in my view badly misnamed) Independent Reference Group. As far as I can tell, the members of the group are chosen by the department. According to Barton's article, they will not even be…

I am interested in who the 17% of non-connected New Zealanders are. Digital divide still alive and well.

Debatable. The WIP report has a bit on that, and the number of users who cite cost as a barrier to internet use is actually very small. More than 40% of non-users…