Hard News: The Big 2012 US Election PAS Thread
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Craig - I'm pretty sure he'll win the popular vote - most of California hasn't been counted yet
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Andrew Geddis, in reply to
I’m really fucking sick of hearing from people who should know better – not least Jon Johansson on One – that Obama won’t have a “real mandate” unless he wins the popular vote.
Obama is going to win the popular vote - handily. The outstanding votes are in California/Oregon/Washington. He'll end up with a "mandate" of over a million votes in the popular vote.
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Couple of fun House races involving "Tea Party" darlings to keep watching, while we wait for Romney to stop sulking and just concede so that Obama can give his victory speech ... Alan West is behind by a few hundred votes, while Michelle Bachmann is leading by a similarly small margin.
Could be the cherry on the top of a quite pleasant evening (over here).
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Obama's already ahead in the popular vote, and it's only going to get bigger now, yes.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Obama is presiding over a predominately Republican House
That is the thing I keep forgetting, it's like us having a separate vote for PM and, sort of, like Mayoral elections. Makes you wonder though about how the Repuglicans claim it was Obama failing to act eh?.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
He’ll end up with a “mandate” of over a million votes in the popular vote.
But even if Obama doesn't, that's not actually how the United States elects a President. I'd really expect someone who lectures, writes and extensively comments on American politics to... you know, point that out.
Michelle Bachmann is leading by a similarly small margin.
If Tea Party pin up Bachmann -- who also outspent her Democrat opponent twelve to one -- loses her seat, I'm going to break the internet with schadentweets. You've been warned.
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Romney just conceded.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
I’d really expect someone who lectures, writes and extensively comments on American politics to… you know, point that out.
Well I don’t do any of those things but I understand that the People vote for a bunch of other people (the electoral college) to do the actual vote for them and they don’t necessarily have to follow the Peoples choice, although I don’t think they have gone the other way in recent history. A safeguard to stop the People electing somebody who won’t do as they're told I suppose.
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Whoever makes US flags of any size must do great business during elections
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SteveH, in reply to
Well I don’t do any of those things but I understand that the People vote for a bunch of other people (the electoral college) to do the actual vote for them and they don’t necessarily have to follow the Peoples choice, although I don’t think they have gone the other way in recent history. A safeguard to stop the People electing somebody who won’t do as they’re told I suppose.
About half the states have laws that punish faithless electors.
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Apparently Sweet Tooth and the Sugar Babies are looking for a gig tonight...
Some 5,000 people are expected at Romney's invitation-only gala at the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center.
Boston-based cover band Sweet Tooth & the Sugarbabies has been booked to play the celebration and sliders and pretzels have been ordered to feed the hungry guests.
'It’s a party, but we’re not trying to go over the top,' Will Ritter, Romney's director of advance planning, told the Globe.
'This is where he gets introduced to the American people as a president, so we’re trying to keep this as stately as we can and still keep it a fun event.'
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Karl Rove was in shock
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I see the if x wins I'm moving to NZ page got mentioned in the Gaurdian live blog.
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Jos,
Almost makes Fox News worth watching!
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What a speech. What a pleasure to hear and watch. Obama is the best orator I have have ever seen. Imagine if we had a man who could talk like that, he’d win in a landslide.
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Bevan Shortridge, in reply to
If Tea Party pin up Bachmann -- who also outspent her Democrat opponent twelve to one -- loses her seat, I'm going to break the internet with schadentweets. You've been warned
Politico.com has them at 50.0% each (77.9% reporting)
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Islander, in reply to
Imagine if we had a man who could talk like that, he’d win in a landslide.
Try imagining further - *any* ANZ politician, reguardless of gender 'who could talk like that" they'd win te mea te mea te mea-
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Blue America.
Blue State America. Gay (friendly) Blue. To think Rove used gay marriage to divide the country 10 years ago shows what a decade can bring in American politics.
Now the congress has to work with Obama on jobs and financial regulation or else surely Obama has no option than to go ballistic on them in order to remove them by mid-terms. It will be a great second term if that congress gets sorted out and function able,because the Tea Party made it a house of apathy.
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In what is considered a genuine upset, Heidi Heitkamp (Dem) is ahead in the count (50.5%) with 98% counted in a race for a senate seat in North Dakota. 538 had been estimating an 8% chance for her (so about the same as Romney)
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Andrew Geddis, in reply to
Politico.com has them at 50.0% each (77.9% reporting)
Bachmann has a lead of 1700, with 81% reporting. But her lead has been slowly growing ... unless there's some precincts out there with lots of Democrat votes in them, she may survive.
Alan West, however, has lost ... .
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Russell Brown, in reply to
What a speech. What a pleasure to hear and watch. Obama is the best orator I have have ever seen.
It was extraordinary. There were a number of familiar motifs in there, but it seemed born of conviction. The climactic message of diversity and inclusion -- with its historic shout-out to disabled citizens -- was powerful and moving. I cried at that point.
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Jos,
Jeepers Russell!
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Jeremy Eade, in reply to
Respect. As Tip ONeil said, politics is basically local. We need to rearrange a few things for some citizens and it's well overdue.
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I need another Caryota Palm to plant. Yay!
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From rainy, sultry Wollongong. Wandered into a Myers store to find a wall of TV screens announcing Obama's victory. It was one fine moment.
Generally, though, Australians seem more interested in a bloody horse race!
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