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Hard News: One man’s Meat Puppets is another man’s Poison

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  • George Darroch, in reply to Tom Beard,

    Can’t believe I’ve never heard that Kraftwerk. Clearly I need to spend more time with Der Katalog. And yes, Gravy Rainbow infects.

    This is another one of those songs I love but which turns others I know seriously the wrong way.

    When I was in a spell in 2010, I think I listened to this continuously on repeat for over a week.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    But then ELO could never do any bad in my books,

    Jackie, our relationship was showing signs of promise. I'll really try not to notice that statement. But I'll have to try very very hard.

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    the sound of the '80s, the gated reverb drum effect. Gabriel and Collins still haggle over whodunnit.

    Hugh Padgham?

    BTW,
    Just been flipping through a Peter Gabriel bio. I dislike Phil Collins' music as intensely as the next guy, but - oddly enough - he seems to come across as a pretty decent geezer.

    Tony Banks, not so much.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Scott Chris, in reply to Russell Brown,

    It has dawned on me through this thread what a big influence listening to (and taping) Casey Kasem’s American Top 40 was on my musical education.

    Not Barry ‘Dr Rock’ Jenkins?

    Auckland • Since Feb 2012 • 167 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP,

    Let me tickle your fancy.

    I don't even...

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Hebe,

    Oh Hebe! It's alright - I've sustained many a relationship with people who have very different musical tastes to me. Most people in my life, if the truth be told.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    ;-)

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    10,000 views just whipped by. Is that a record for most views in the opening weekend?

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2560 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Scott Chris,

    Not Barry ‘Dr Rock’ Jenkins?

    We couldn't get him on the radio down in Christchurch. And anyway, until he heard the Stranglers, he was playing Little Feat and Return to Forever.

    Which brings me to Little Feat. Just don't get that.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22843 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    10,000 views just whipped by. Is that a record for most views in the opening weekend?

    I'd have to check, but it's certainly right up there.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22843 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe,

    The idea that people are watching but speaking is incomprehensible to me -- a bit over 600 posts and 10,000 views. Imagine if they all joined in...

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Would Gary Numan count as well?

    Indeed he would. Interesting to note that the Google ad on that clip said "Looking for a new car?"

    Coincidence?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard, in reply to Emma Hart,

    It's not that we have nothing in common, just that in certain aspects, we are complete opposites.

    For instance, no saxophone tie, but a jersey with a keyboard pattern.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Scott Chris,

    Not Barry ‘Dr Rock’ Jenkins?

    Jenkin, without an s if I recall correctly. I also remember him interviewing, was it Buster Stiggs(?) from the Reptiles, on Radio With Pictures. The Doc wore one of those razor blades around his neck for the occasion, and generally encouraged Mr Stiggs to reassure the viewers that no, punks didn't really bite the heads off babies. And I found myself thinking, well shit, if it was me I'd want my money back.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Tom Beard,

    For instance, no saxophone tie, but a jersey with a keyboard pattern.

    You know what? Let us never speak of this again.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Which brings me to Little Feat. Just don't get that.

    Don't fail me now, Russ. My older brother was into the Feat, but I suspect it was the late 60's/early 70's Wellington pothead scene as much as anything. Never really got the music but I loved the Robert Crumb cover! Then again, he also introduced me to Maria Muldaur, The Band (without Dylan), and the Who's Tommy. On the gripping hand, he introduced me to Dylan, who I rate as a lyricist but do not enjoy hearing sing.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Hebe,

    Imagine if they all joined in

    but humans don't in group conversations, no matter what the medium

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19735 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to nzlemming,

    Dylan, who I rate as a lyricist but do not enjoy hearing sing

    I could not abide Dylan until I went with beloved to a Dylan/Patti Smith concert in about 1999. I came out a convert. He does seem to put out a crap album or two then a good one in a repeating cycle. Patti Smith was amazing, worth waiting 20 years for. I haven't seen live band since that equalled it (unless you count the Wiggles when my three-year-olds were struck dumb by the appearance on stage of The Big Red Car).

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Hebe,

    Have you read Patti Smith's memoirs, Hebe? Pretty amazing life. I had no idea that she lived with Robert Mapplethorpe as his lover for a while there.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    Mapplethorpe shot the Horses cover, and some of the other good pics of Patti Smith. I read her book but can't remember much that I didn't know, which I picked up along the way somehow. Their relationship appeared a rather standard one of that sort -- probably startling for many people. I saw an exhibition in London of his work; some edgy stuff, some elegaic. But as a former sub-editor I have a Britannica-sized memory of all sorts of random facts that I'm never sure where they came from (I do sift for source though and immediately discard the unreliable).

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Jenkin, without an s if I recall correctly. I also remember him interviewing, was it Buster Stiggs(?) from the Reptiles, on Radio With Pictures.

    In early-ish '77 when we'd just begun Reptiling four of us - Buster, guitarist Billy Planet, sax player Jimmy Joy and myself - crashed the doctor's evening show on Radio Hauraki.

    He was still firmly stuck in the Little Feat / Steely Dan hole then but he graciously let us play a bunch of records we had and take over part of his show. He loved Elvis Costello (we had one track on a Stiff Records comp as he'd yet to put out an album) and was pretty happy to let us play our treasured Damned and Clash 45s - you couldn't buy the latter in NZ at all.

    However he drew a line at The Monkees and demanded to know if we were taking the piss out of him. We weren't but he couldn't see it and he killed the show - or at least our part of it.

    A few weeks later he rang and asked if a Reptile would come on RWP. Thus Buster....

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3283 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    How did the band's name come about? It gave an air of menace (which I liked).

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2899 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Before Casey Kasem there was the Lever Hit Parade.

    (By the way I loved Little Feat but not sure what happened to the LPs I once owned - they must have gone somewhere with my beloved Zappa collection.)

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3222 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    She is about as working class as Rupert Murdoch. The problem with Marilyn and why I have never had much time for her is that she chose the wrong political party,

    Can't comment on Waring's background, but by being prepared to cross the floor for the anti-nuclear issue, she did help precipitate the 1984 snap election.

    And she's a hero as a feminist activist. :-)

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Ross Mason,

    It is/was called a magic eye. Used for getting that old AM radio right bang on the station

    Thank you, Ross, I'd forgotten that! It would brighten and dim as you turned the tuning knob.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

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