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  • philipmatthews,

    Boston Tce?

    Devon St. University in one direction, skinheads in the other.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report

  • George Darroch,

    Also, Mr. Dentith would make the point that it's a conspiracy even if it actually happened, and conspiracy theories aren't fallacious by definition. Apologies if that point has been made already upthread.

    I don't think it has been. The use of "conspiracy theory" is often used as a very powerful rhetorical device to wave away inconvenient claims. one of my favourite quotes on the matter comes from Noam Chomsky:

    There's nothing more remote from what we have been discussing than a conspiracy theory. If I give an analysis of, say the economic system, and I point out that GM tries to maximize profit and market share - that's not a conspiracy theory; that's an institutional analysis. It has nothing to do with conspiracies. That's precisely the sense in which we've been talking about the media. The phrase "conspiracy theory" is one of those that's constantly brought up, and I think it's effect simply is to discourage institutional analysis.

    Manufacturing Consent.

    You can see just this kind of example in a New Zealand context this week, where Colin Espiner throws away suggestions that National plans to partly privatise ACC as a "conspiracy theory", "peddled" by Labour. This despite the fact that the partial privatisation of ACC (oops, sorry, the "opening of the work account to competition") is openly in the National Party policy statements (PDF) on ACC.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report

  • giovanni tiso,

    No doubt, but Matthew would disagree with that narrow common usage and so do I.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • conseismal,

    this little trollop is gratified and even - lord, lord, say it ain't so! - encouraged to see that Mr Dalziel's is no dull zeal and that he appears to be familiar with what is meant by 'immanentizing the eschaton" ..can only hop about hoping that he takes time out to do some hardcore reading of Voegelin, IF (an aerial) he has not in fact already done so... me still bristling it must be said at the routine charge of "incoherence" last night, when it seemed pretty damn obvious what i was inviting (in what i believed to be "good faith") those present here to do - in the service of all truthiness and troth to fearlessly try and revisit that moment in evenemential time when they first gave their assent to ACC (whoops acronyllision there) .. as distingusihed from the realisation that 'everybody else' now believed in this and they'd better fall in line or be branded as heretic.. i take media moguls (heh..) like RB dead seriously when they say that they "think for themselves" even whilst being scenically mediated to within an inch of their lives, so..

    (so, GT, i use a few odd words here and there; what's it to ya Moby Dick?)

    Since Jul 2009 • 54 posts Report

  • Samuel Scott,

    I keep seeing free screenings of something called Zeitgeist advertised around campus. Haven't seen it but it's available online and looks fairly crazy.

    You can see that at freedocumentaries.org I think.

    It has some really boring stuff about GASP religion being a bit phony, then some very interesting stuff about the US Federal Reserve. I don't know how true it is but you know it was okay...then it goes into crazy shit!

    Basically rich banking families blew up the twin towers so they could implant mind controlling microchips into unruly liberals. It actually made me scared for about 15 hours till I decided to right it all off as the rubbish it must surely be....or is it?

    I like conspiracy theories, they're entertaining.

    South Wellington • Since Feb 2008 • 315 posts Report

  • mark taslov,

    Basically rich banking families blew up the twin towers so they could implant the idea that Ladyhawke is worthy.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report

  • Alan Perrott,

    Fox comes through again...Hadron Collider being sabotaged by agents from the future.


    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 438 posts Report

  • Mrs Skin,

    Those rich banking families need to talk to their chip manufacturer. I'm pretty sure the implants weren't meant to make us all pissed off at the banks' behaviour & the subsequent global recession thingy.

    They probably have a remedy in contract, given the extent of the malfunctions, and possibly one in tort for damage to reputation.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Shay Lambert,

    Fox comes through again...Hadron Collider being sabotaged by agents from the future.

    Don't dismiss it just because Fox News reported it - apparently this is being seriously discussed in physicist circles...


    But by agents from the future, I don't think they mean actual agents like the Men in Black or the Matrix. Still, pretty wacky.

    Auckland • Since May 2009 • 78 posts Report

  • Lyndon Hood,

    Apparently Glenn Beck latest communist-terrorist-taking-over entirely-backwards bugbear is net neutrality: marxist plot to control content on the internet?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1115 posts Report

  • philipmatthews,

    Press release that may interest some:

    Visiting architect presents evidence that undermines official 9/11 story.
    Architect and internationally acclaimed speaker Richard Gage will present
    startling new evidence about the September 11, 2001 collapses of the World
    Trade Centre when he speaks in Wellington next month.
    A practicing architect with more than 20 years experience, Richard Gage,
    AIA (American Institute of Architects) will present compelling evidence
    that calls into question official reports about how the WTC building
    Three steel-framed high-rise buildings spectacularly collapsed on Sept 11,
    2001 after two jetliners were flown into the twin towers. Official reports
    attribute the building's failures to fire damage.
    However, no other steel-framed building has ever collapsed from fire.
    Using video analysis of all three building's collapses, Gage will explain
    how they could not, and did not, collapse because of fire damage.
    The seminar introduces the research of Dr. Steven Jones, (Physics
    Professor Emeritus, Brigham Young University), who, along with other
    scientists, analysed large quantities of nano-thermite, a
    highly-engineered explosive recently developed by the military, found in
    the dust at Ground Zero. These findings have been corroborated and
    published in the peer-reviewed scientific journal, The Open Chemical
    Physics Journal.
    This corroborated evidence is the basis for a call for a new independent
    investigation into the WTC building failures, an investigation not
    encumbered with the lack of sub-poena power and limited terms of reference
    which has hamstrung previous investigations.
    Gage is a member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, a World-wide
    group of Architects and Engineers now approaching one thousand Architect
    and Engineering professionals and more than five thousand affiliated
    supporters. AE911truth is demanding a new investigation into the
    destruction of the three buildings based on hard physical evidence,
    witness testimony, video evidence and strict structural analysis using the
    original blueprints. As building professionals they have the necessary
    technical credibility that Congress will respond to in bringing about this
    new investigation.
    Richard Gage's presentation "9/11: Blueprint for Truth - The Architecture
    of Destruction" will be followed by a question and answer session
    facilitated by John Bursill, Aircraft Engineer and founder of 911truth
    Australia. After a short break, there will be a video screening of Dr.
    Steven Jones lecture: "Nanothermite: What is High-tech explosive material
    doing in the dust generated on 9/11/2001?"
    Date and Location: 2pm November 21, Soundings Theatre, Level 2, Te Papa,
    Wellington - Free admission.
    Architect Richard Gage will be interviewed live by Kim Hill on Radio New
    Zealand on the morning of November 21.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report

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