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				<title>philipmatthews</title>
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						<p>Press release that may interest some:</p><blockquote><p>MEDIA RELEASE<br />27/10/09<br />Visiting architect presents evidence that undermines official 9/11 story.<br />Architect and internationally acclaimed speaker Richard Gage will present<br />startling new evidence about the September 11, 2001 collapses of the World<br />Trade Centre when he speaks in Wellington next month.<br />A practicing…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:54:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						Apparently Glenn Beck latest communist-terrorist-taking-over entirely-backwards bugbear is <a href="http://gawker.com/5387076/glenn-beck-net-neutrality-is-marxist-plot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">net neutrality</a>: marxist plot to control content on the internet?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:14:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Shay Lambert</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fox comes through again...Hadron Collider being sabotaged by agents from the future.</p></blockquote><p>Don't dismiss it just because Fox News reported it &ndash; apparently this is being seriously discussed in physicist circles...</p><p><a href="url">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?_r=1&amp;scp=4&amp;sq=large%20hadron%20collider&amp;st=cse</a></p><p>But by agents from the future, I don't think they mean actual agents like the Men in Black…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:09:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<p>Those rich banking families need to talk to their chip manufacturer. I'm pretty sure the implants weren't meant to make us all pissed off at the banks' behaviour &amp; the subsequent global recession thingy.</p><p>They probably have a remedy in contract, given the extent of the malfunctions, and possibly one in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:29:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alan Perrott</title>
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						<p>Fox comes through again...Hadron Collider being sabotaged by agents from the future.</p><p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html?test=latestnews" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html?test=latestnews</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:06:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						Basically rich banking families blew up the twin towers so they could implant the idea that Ladyhawke is worthy.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:57:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Samuel Scott</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I keep seeing free screenings of something called Zeitgeist advertised around campus. Haven't seen it but it's available online and looks fairly crazy.</p></blockquote><p>You can see that at freedocumentaries.org I think.</p><p>It has some really boring stuff about GASP religion being a bit phony, then some very interesting stuff about…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:36:49 +1300</pubDate>
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						this little trollop is gratified and even &ndash; lord, lord, say it ain't so! &ndash; encouraged to see that Mr Dalziel's is no dull zeal and that he appears to be familiar with what is meant by 'immanentizing the eschaton" ..can only hop about hoping that he takes time out…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:38:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						No doubt, but Matthew would disagree with that narrow common usage and so do I.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:51:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Also, Mr. Dentith would make the point that it's a conspiracy even if it actually happened, and conspiracy theories aren't fallacious by definition. Apologies if that point has been made already upthread.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think it has been. The use of "conspiracy theory" is often used as a very powerful…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:26:25 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Boston Tce?</p></blockquote><p>Devon St. University in one direction, skinheads in the other.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:47:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Aro Valley</p></blockquote><p>Boston Tce?</p><blockquote><p>the drug de rigueur</p></blockquote><p>but what will be the "drug de rugger"?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:32:05 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Pot was passe.</p></blockquote><p>Should have been more specific: this was Aro Valley.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:16:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I remember hearing variations on this stuff from potheads I used to flat with in Wellington 20 years ago</p></blockquote><p>Yes 1989 I remember it well, Deepak was lusting after Hollywood starlets, my sex had come from Mars apparently, and I thought the drug de riguer was pillish or powdery. Pot…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:12:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						Back when I used to work at Auckland City Libraries, a sweet old lady would occasionally come in. She'd be invariably friendly and engaging and would start what initially seemed like any other local history reference interview. Then she'd segue smoothly to Tainui's involvement in the interstellar white slave trade,…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:09:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>W.A.S.T.E.</p></blockquote><p>no I'm pretty sure it was a Thurn und Taxis stamp I used... Silent Tristero's Empire will have to wait...</p><blockquote><p>inherent vice</p></blockquote><p>screwed and crushed again...</p><p>still when yer working to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanentize_the_eschaton" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> <em>immanentize the eschaton</em></a><br />the best place to hide anything is out in the open...</p><p>yrs <br />Malaclypse…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:00:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah conspiracists, so good for so little, but the little for which they are good (namely having a laugh) they do ever so well.</p></blockquote><p>Up to a point, Lord Copper. :)  But I think we can all agree that the joke palls pretty damn quickly when paranoid dingbats are, quite…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:48:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but I do not know their Fax number.<br />Probably has some 666s in it.</p></blockquote><p>Just send it to the Templars &amp; have them pass it on.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:47:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						All the stuff on the internet looks crazy because it's written to discredit the conspiracy theorist by associating them with paranoid nutcases.  Or so I hear.
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What astonishes me about the Illuminati is how they control everything except Internet.</p></blockquote><p>No, They control that too. All the stuff on the internet is what They want you to see.</p><p>Wake up you sheeple!</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>wanting to enter Parliament is a sign that you're not entirely sane</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, but not as bad as wanting to marry into the British Royal Family..</p>
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						<blockquote><p>who have I been sending those cheques to then?</p></blockquote><p>It's all been a W.A.S.T.E</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>ya mean someone's put the pynch on me...</blockquote>Or got your balls caught in some inherent vice perhaps?.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>...the Golden Fang doesn't exist!<br />who have I been sending those cheques to then?</p><p>ya mean someone's put the pynch on me...</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>I stopped having any sympathy for grand conspiracies when I realised that those in control were, either, not too bright or had to try and push good ideas to those that were not too bright.<br />In other words, if you cant organise a piss up in a brewery how the…</p>
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				<title>noizyboy</title>
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						<blockquote>That's the thing about conspiracy theories, isn't it? There are these vast engines of malice that rule the world (or are hiding the truth about the end of the world in 2012 or destroyed the Twin Towers while telling all the Jews to chuck a sickie etc.) without anyone noticing,…</blockquote>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>What astonishes me about the Illuminati is how they control everything except Internet.</em></p><p>That's the thing about conspiracy theories, isn't it? There are these vast engines of malice that rule the world (or are hiding the truth about the end of the world in 2012 or destroyed the Twin Towers…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>. . . destroyed the Twin Towers while telling all the Jews to chuck a sickie</p></blockquote><p>The Elders of Zion projectile vomiting! How utterly Icke-y.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What astonishes me about the Illuminati is how they control everything except Internet.</p></blockquote><p>That's the thing about conspiracy theories, isn't it?  There are these vast engines of malice that rule the world (or are hiding the truth about the end of the world in 2012 or destroyed the Twin Towers…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>but I do not know their Fax number.</p></blockquote><p>Probably has some 666s in it.</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<p>What astonishes me about the Illuminati is how they control everything except Internet. Somehow, people can post the truth about the Illuminatii all over Internet, without the Illuminati seeming to notice. Clearly, they have spent so much effort dominating global politics that they have fallen behind in Information Technology. </p><p>I…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Dubya and Darth Cheney, I could imagine them, on dark nights transforming into tongue flicking lizards, descendants from a long line of somehow surviving dinosaur aliens from another dimension ensuring our confused and anxiety ridden psychic energies were feeding their ravenous appetites.</p></blockquote><p>I remember hearing variations on this stuff from…</p>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I keep seeing free screenings of something called Zeitgeist advertised around campus. Haven't seen it but it's available online and looks fairly crazy.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, pretty crazy. I've only seen bits, but it seems to be in three parts. Part One is all about how Christianity is just a cut-n-paste from…</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Re. the backmasking &ndash; thanks for posting Richard, I'd never felt like destoying my records enough to try and make them play backwards.</p><p>I never realised Beelzebub was so into toolsheds that he wanted to lead us all down the garden path to one. I suppose it makes sense though,…</p></blockquote>
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						Well I hope Mikey doesnt get any of the host's if he actually present's anything like that as fact.
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						<blockquote><p>2001 I cast my eyes over those books.</p></blockquote><p>You have my sympathies.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:48:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Conspiracy theories,       OH MY.<br />The best one has to be David Icke (or Icky) <br />2001 I cast my eyes over those books. </p><p>Dubya and Darth Cheney, I could imagine them, on dark nights transforming into tongue flicking lizards, descendants from a long line of somehow surviving dinosaur aliens from another…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:26:10 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>And on a slight tangent to matters conspiratorial, I'm a big fan of The Dim-Post, but seriously Danyl: W. T. F?</p></blockquote><p>Indeed. I loved George D's comment:</p><blockquote><p>Danyl, I’m glad you’ve got back to writing satire.</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:14:10 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>"someone with the gravitas of a Charlie Sheen"</p><p>If I ever get a business card, that has to go on it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:05:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>And on a slight tangent to matters conspiratorial, I'm a big fan of The Dim-Post, but seriously Danyl:  <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/go-too-far/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">W. T. F?</a></p><blockquote><p>Go for Nick Smith’s throat: question his mental health. Provoke outrage. Ask why he’s cutting funding for therapy when he obviously needs it himself. Kick up a huge controversy.…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:48:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I keep seeing free screenings of something called  Zeitgeist advertised around campus. Haven't seen it but it's available online and looks fairly crazy.</p></blockquote><p>Is this the same  conspiracy theory movie to rail against celebrity culture and then conclude with a montage featuring John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix?</p><p>The reason I…</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						I like that conspiracy claiming piracy of music and cinema are killing the industry.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:03:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<p>Sort of related, but here's a <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/10/12/glenn_beck/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Salon</a> article on how Glen Beck's frankly batshit theories frequently get laundered and then pounced upon by Republican congressman and senators. It's actually quite worrying.</p><p>This is what happens when a party's manifesto/ideology begins to eat itself. Say what you will about William F…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:57:25 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Re. the backmasking &ndash; thanks for posting Richard, I'd never felt like destoying my records enough to try and make them play backwards.</p><p>I never realised Beelzebub was so into toolsheds that he wanted to lead us all down the garden path to one. I suppose it makes sense though,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:10:26 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>But *you* were incisive &amp; exceedingly coherent-<br />just kind of 'ew!' flick off fingers disgusting-<br />-but given your circumstances &ndash; meh, why not be so?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:02:31 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>sylphs?<br />Why do I instantly think of "The Rape of The Lock"?<br />Little twisted excoriatingly-tongued Mr Pope- with your beautiful rythyms &amp; rhymes &amp; truly nasty mind- welcome again to the world!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:34:31 +1300</pubDate>
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						((oh me, oh my, what to say? what a silly bunch of very unadventurous old cows !!!))
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:19:07 +1300</pubDate>
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						Just when it seems spring is here, a chill sweeps in from the south. Unamusingly.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:07:54 +1300</pubDate>
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						It's a badge of honour. Instant credibility.
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						thanks! I think. ;)
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:05:55 +1300</pubDate>
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						Well done noizyboy- cheers!
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:49:39 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>oh Herr Tiso pray tell, what PART of this do you not understand?<br />(and if Tagmond was 'provoked' she must have, partly at least, understood, right?)</p><p><br />once more w feeling</p><p>but i was a bit disturbed to see the outright condemnation on PA of onee of yr fellow NZ journalists…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>so simply by (lazily) deploying the sign of 'provocation' you can consign my enquiry to hell just like that, huh?</p></blockquote><p>I think a much better reason for doing that is that you're consistently incoherent.</p>
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						so simply by (lazily) deploying the sign of 'provocation' you can consign my enquiry to hell just like that, huh?
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						<blockquote><p>In a great year for conspiracy, I think my favourite headline would be: "Charlie Sheen demands Obama meeting on 9/11 cover-up". The Weekly World News would have rejected that one as too far-fetched, but it ran for real in the LA Times.</p></blockquote><p>Uncensored were all over it too. Their article…</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						I think so steven &ndash; it must be"lift provocation flag above bridge' time. Again.
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						<p>may i say i very much like "..playing the racist card and the MSM like a cheap fiddle"   </p><p>but i was a bit disturbed to see the outright condemnation on PA of one of yr fellow NZ journalists for sampling from another one (in Oz) without acknowledgement &ndash; a real…</p>
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						Now that you say it, I can imagine Vicki Hyde sporting a watergun and fruity camo. Mind you, that probably applies to Sheen as well.
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						In a great year for conspiracy, I think my favourite headline would be: "Charlie Sheen demands Obama meeting on 9/11 cover-up". The Weekly World News would have rejected that one as too far-fetched, but it ran for real in the LA Times.
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah. It appears I did not know that because somebody did not want me to know.</p></blockquote><p>Remove the probe Russell ( its just behind your left ear) then you will know all they do not want you to know</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You mean, Vicki Hyde the Founder of KAOS?</p></blockquote><p>I did not know that.</p><blockquote><p>"Interesting" how that doesn't rate higher on her CV, isn't it? I'm just saying, it's 'interesting'.</p></blockquote><p>Ah. It appears I did not know that because <em>somebody</em> did not want me to know.</p>
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				<title>LIISA</title>
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						<p>Wow, Vicki Hyde is the head of KAOS?? <br />I never would have picked it. &ndash;  do you mean Mr. Big or  Ludwig von Siegfried?</p><p>Zis is KAOS! Ve don't conspire here!</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Maori is now supporting the ACC bill through the first reading too.</p><p>I suddenly thought of the Minister in <em>In The Loop</em>, constantly claiming to be playing a long game while not keeping up. I haven't though carefully about how fair that is.</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p>Backmasking in music is fertile soil for conspiracy theories.<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Backmasking</a> is simply playing a piece of music backwards to reveal ...hidden messages. <br />The conspiracy part comes in when some say these were deliberately created to pass on subliminal messages. </p><p>Here's the famous Stairway to Heaven revealed as containing -…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Because they got dicked, again. I certainly have sympathy for Maori Television: not much at all for those involved from the Maori Party.</p></blockquote><p>Meh... I always say if you're going to behave like an arsehole, a rough dicking is probably exactly what they deserve.  If anything, I'd say MTS and…</p>
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				<title>Katie Brockie</title>
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						<p>Check this out for tin-foil-hat nuttiness:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIuYNaDIFm0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIuYNaDIFm0</a></p><p>General Albert Stubblebine features largely in Jon Ronson's "The Men Who Stared at Goats"</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's interesting how often the words "former ACT MP" correlate with "mad as a bag of kittens with serious psychiatric issues".</p></blockquote><p>It's interesting how often the words "former MP" correlate with "I am backing toward the nearest fire exit and praying for my life".  I think it was Auberon Waugh…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>do you mean Vicki Hyde of the NZ Skeptics?</p></blockquote><p>You mean, Vicki Hyde the Founder of KAOS? "Interesting" how that doesn't rate higher on her CV, isn't it? I'm just saying, it's 'interesting'.</p>
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						It's interesting how often the words "former ACT MP" correlate with "mad as a bag of kittens with serious psychiatric issues".
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>I have passed news of this week's Media 7 on to Dean Ballinger, who is close to finishing a PhD on conspiracy theories, at Waikato.*  I reckon it will be a very good thesis, too</p><p>* Which has its own share of such theories.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>That's actually a wee bit disturbing.</p></blockquote><p>I had to turn it off when he started doing the Darth Vader voice.</p>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Rather than having a piss-up a with a blogger to prematurely celebrate a "political victory", the Maori Party might be well advised to look to the Act Party for lessons in how to exercise leverage as a minority support party. Because they got dicked, again.</p></blockquote><p>But National is closer ideologically…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Or how about a big crazy dose of Jonathan "it's become more and more apparent that it is a Satanic agenda" Eisen? Not sure how to embed this ...</p></blockquote><p>That's actually a wee bit disturbing.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Zeitgeist</p></blockquote><p>I'm guessing it's not <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Phoebe_Zeit-Geist" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Adventures of Phoebe Zeitgeist</a> from 1968 &ndash; created by writer Michael O'Donoghue ( <em>National Lampoon, Saturday Night Live</em> ) and illustrator Frank Springer (Marvel)  first published in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Review" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Evergreen Review</a> in which the hapless heroine is tromped on by multiple tropes &ndash; a metaphor for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:31:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Or how about a big crazy dose of Jonathan "it's become more and more apparent that it is a Satanic agenda" Eisen?</p></blockquote><p>How about I get my colon irrigated with a water blaster full of battery acid instead &mdash; it would be a quicker and less painful way to cause…</p>
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				<title>Sarah Wedde</title>
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						<a href="http://sciencebasedmedicine.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> sciencebasedmedicine.org</a> is good when you need a pep up dose of anti-quackery.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:27:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But look out before that for a Christmas Great Blend!</p></blockquote><p>Tentative date?  Y'know, for those of us who are making travel plans...</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						I keep seeing free screenings of something called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist,_the_Movie " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Zeitgeist</a> advertised around campus. Haven't seen it but it's available online and looks fairly crazy.
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				<title>philipmatthews</title>
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						<p>Or how about a big crazy dose of Jonathan "it's become more and more apparent that it is a Satanic agenda" Eisen? Not sure how to embed this ... </p><p><a href="http://uncensored.co.nz/2009/02/05/media-revolution-news-interview-with-jonathan-eisen-part-1-of-2/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://uncensored.co.nz/2009/02/05/media-revolution-news-interview-with-jonathan-eisen-part-1-of-2/</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:11:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BTW, Russell, weren't you trying to get Ben 'Bad Science' Goldacre out here for the next Great Blend? How's that coming along, if it is and/or you can say anything...</p></blockquote><p>It's looking hopeful for early next year, just quietly (he says on a public website).</p><p>But look out before that…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>On a vaguely related note, marvel at the sight of <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-movie17-2009oct17,0,4123180.story" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">actual scientists trying to rebutt hysteria around Roland Emmerich's latest disaster porno</a>...</p><blockquote><p>Normally, scientists regard Internet hysteria with nothing more than a raised eyebrow and a shake of the head. But a few scientists have become so concerned at…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>do you mean Vicki Hyde of the <strong>NZ</strong> Skeptics?<br />(and how come they don't use the British spelling of sceptic?)<br />anyway, I don't recall her appearing in The Skeptics <em>AFFCO</em> clip... :-)</p><p>hope you'll be giving that conspiracy theory of <br />"19 mostly Saudi men taking over 4 planes and managing…</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Probably my favourite conspiracy website is <a href="http://cryptogon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Cryptogon</a>. It's a mix of the good, the bad, and the ugly.</p><p>It represents what is a fairly common opinion, although one that is significantly underrepresented in American politics.</p><blockquote><p>The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Rather than having a piss-up a with a blogger to prematurely celebrate a "political victory"</p></blockquote><p>Who goes to a bar, makes a bad joke at someone else's expense, high fives around the table, and then hurries home to post it on their blog? Is this common in Wellington these days?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BTW, he's not really a 'climate change expert'....</p></blockquote><p>You get that. Here's Fox News recently with an "infectious diseases specialist" who actually turns out to be an anti-ageing quack who peddles magic potions:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1z7KSEnyxw</a></p><p>Nearly half a million views of that one so far ...</p>
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				<title>Alastair Jamieson</title>
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						<p>I hesitate to spread this around, but if it's conspiracy theories you're after, get a load of this:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40</a></p><p>BTW, he's not really a 'climate change expert'....</p>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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