Hard News: Media Mathematics
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PS We should welcome Coleman's attempt at rationality, because the ideology that you've suggested is behind this decision could well be applied to national radio, which is easily defended on a rational basis, but difficult to defend if you are attacking an ideology.
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Sacha, in reply to
People don't make political decisions rationally. Sadly, politicians realise this.
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nzlemming, in reply to
professional pride, ethics, and regulated standards?
Bwahahaha!
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Sacha, in reply to
quaint, I know
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john Drinnan, in reply to
For the record.
You may have missed the three items headed DISTRESSED, INDEPENDENCE AND HEAL THYSELF in the Herald media column on December 16. -
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
DISTRESSED, INDEPENDENCE AND HEAL THYSELF in the Herald media column
Here’s the link to make things easier for a new comment poster – welcome aboard.
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Hebe, in reply to
Journalists never were any good at maths; they were Good At English at school. And incredibly few even care or see it as a lack. in vital skills. That's why stupid stories like this go unchallenged through the editorial system and end up in print. One would think the editor could do numbers though. Sheesh.
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Hebe, in reply to
Tim Wilson ideal for Breakfast TV? Eh?
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Stewart, in reply to
I entirely agree that we can best challenge the decision via his dodgy rationalisation, I just didn't want you to think that it was the supposed poor ratings that begat the decision.
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Sacha, in reply to
I believe someone linked to them at the time; may have even been me.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Right, we're holding you responsible then. Beatings later.
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Phil Lyth, in reply to
Welcome John. The debate here can be robust but always civil. Looking forward to your participation.
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Sacha, in reply to
always civil
except for sporadic promises of torture :)
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Islander, in reply to
<q>Beatings later.</q
O- ratshit.
I was hoping for public dismemberment...8>) -
Sacha, in reply to
he's saving that for the next copyright thread
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Phil Lyth, in reply to
except for sporadic promises of torture :)
almost always civil
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Phil Lyth, in reply to
Innumeracy
Then there's the fourth dimension: news-os (yes, Fairfax's West Island subbies strike again.) As I was saying, newsos report on square acres / square hectares. Um, it's already a measure of area. Don't need to square it.
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Hebe, in reply to
As I was saying, newsos report on square acres / square hectares. Um, it's already a measure of area. Don't need to square
I can hear Frank Haden rotating from his fatalised state. (He once threatened to fatalise me for a crime against English grammar.)
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Islander, in reply to
I can hear Frank Haden rotating from his fatalised state. (He once threatened to fatalise me for a crime against English grammar.)
Heh! Love that! Ur, did his surname have a ‘y” or ’where/when/who’ (optional) attached? (Maybe a different newso Frank I am remembering...)
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Hebe, in reply to
Nah, He was Haden. As he said late in his life "I've spent my life battling bullshit." I loved him: he was mad, irascible, inconsistent, brutal, appalling and bloody funny, as well as incredibly well-read and liked a good party, often outlasting those of us many years younger. I have a collected wisdom of Frank that the DOGs (Dominion Old Girls) put out -- I think for his official retirement.
Are there any newsrooms like that left?
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We know the owners of big media use their outlets to push their political agendas. The recent purchase of 15% of Fairfax by a billionaire Australian miner for *exactly* this purpose is merely more confirmation of what we already know. I no longer expect the New Zealand to be honest, serious or genuine on anything political where it touches the agenda of their corporate masters.
Thanks for pointing out yet another example of the NZ Herald lying to us all to suit their own agenda.
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Sacha, in reply to
As he said late in his life "I've spent my life battling bullshit."
and spreading it
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Hebe, in reply to
and spreading it
Agreed; but I appreciate inconsistency and imperfection more and more as I age.
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Attention to detail, incisive thinking, connecting the dots: Russell, I think YOU should be working for the Herald. On second thoughts, don't even think about it...
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Islander, in reply to
Not that I know of Hebe -aue!
The Frank Hayden I knew was mainly a magazine sub-ed but he was caustic, a draconian spelling & grammar person - but who would let creative stuff flow.
One of these days I must collect the -ur- newly-created words I managed to let fly free in the world of print while I was gainfully employed in print & tv journalism...
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