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  • Span .,

    I second Riddley above, thanks for that Stephen Judd, much appreciated!

    Auckland, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 112 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    I'm interested in finding thee torrent of the Front Line doco that Russell mentioned. No luck so far ... be great if someone could point me in the right direction?

    Thanks in advance.

    My bad, actually. Searches for "Newswar" bring up nada. But "News War", well ...

    http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=%22News+War%22

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Paul Lander,

    I was most surprised to hear ("Hardball" on MSNBC) that two of the jurors have already come out and stated that they support/hope that Bush will pardon Scooter. Sure he's the fall-guy, protecting Cheney and co, but they did find him guilty of lying under oath, and he is a member of the Bush White-house administration, so I'd have thought that he deserves to serve some time for his crimes. These sentiments by members of the jury must surely strengthen Bush's case to issue a pardon.

    The holy land • Since Mar 2007 • 2 posts Report

  • Paul Lander,

    That CNN is seen by the likes of him as screamingly lefty seems to me to be an indication how far to the right the centre is in the US of A these days.

    I'm not sure which CNN channels SKY NZ shows, but the two channels I'm familiar with in the US, seem like Fox-lite to me. They have idiots like Glen Beck trying to out-do Bill O'Reilly; and no he's not doing a 'Colbert'.

    The holy land • Since Mar 2007 • 2 posts Report

  • WH,

    The role of the US news media in allowing Bush to come to office by portraying Al Gore as an idiot, then credulously cheerleading Bush's various foreign and domestic policy disasters after 9/11 is prolly a little understated IMO. The Scooter Libby trial has been an interesting insight into access journalism.

    I was flipping through a Geoffrey Palmer book yesterday (as you do) where he said that his experience in government led him to believe that media coverage was often misleading or just perpetrated falsehoods (not necessarily deliberately, but falsehoods all the same). If the political coverage at the Herald is anything to go by I'm inclined to believe him.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1219027,00.html

    Since Nov 2006 • 797 posts Report

  • omapere,

    But "News War", well ...

    Excellent, thanks Russell.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3 posts Report

  • Riddley Walker,

    media coverage was often misleading or just perpetrated falsehoods (not necessarily deliberately, but falsehoods all the same)


    Weston - what do you think about this: corporate media's principle obligation, like any corporation, is to deliver a dividend to its shareholders. secondly to its advertisers, for their ability to help them discharge their principle duty, and thirdly - if you're lucky - to the audience, citizens, the demos etc. of course the marketing dept will always say an outlet's principle duty is to its audience.

    now what happens when a political party comes along that promises corporate tax cuts, which in turn will help a media corporation to increase the dividend it returns to its shareholders, while another competing party might at the same time suggest it will tax corporates more? Even if the higher tax party's policy might actually be in the better interests of the audience (not saying that's necessarily so, but for the sake of argument), do you think a media corporation reporting on the issue would give better coverage to the party that served corporate interests or the audience's interests? in that situation a media outlet's corporate responsibility first and foremost is to promote an environment of lower taxation and be critical of anything that might lead to higher taxation - irrespective of what might actually be good for the nation or its citizens.

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report

  • Ben Austin,

    So I was reading the Conservapedia - turns out one of the reasons Wikipedia is biased is because it often converts US English spelling to British English spelling.

    For shame!

    9. Wikipedia often uses foreign spelling of words, even though most English-speaking users are American. Look up "Most Favored Nation" on Wikipedia and it automatically converts the spelling to the British spelling "Most Favoured Nation." Look up "Division of labor" on Wikipedia and it automatically converts to the British spelling "Division of labour," then insists on the British spelling for "specialization" also.[9] Enter "Hapsburg" (the European ruling family) and Wikipedia automatically changes the spelling to Habsburg, even though the American spelling has always been "Hapsburg". Within entries British spellings appear in the silliest of places, even when the topic is American. Conservapedia favors American spellings of words.

    http://www.conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 1027 posts Report

  • WH,

    corporate media's principle obligation, like any corporation, is to deliver a dividend to its shareholders

    Ideally it achieves this objective by providing the public with useful information. However it is by no means a perfect process. Anyone interested in this topic might want to read Palmer's Constitution in Crisis, chapter 9, The Media and Politics.

    An example I currently have in mind is CGT on investment housing. It seems to me that there is no good reason why everyone should suffer higher interest rates and a higher exchange rate because our housing market is overheating. A very obvious answer to this problem is a fiscally neutral CGT on second houses (a solution that was proposed by the last major review of the tax system and informally suggested to me by Susan St John, back when I was at varsity).

    <picks up the names he dropped>

    This isn't exactly the preferred solution of those who have second houses.

    Since Nov 2006 • 797 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    9. Wikipedia often uses foreign spelling of words, even though most English-speaking users are American.

    if one assumes that a third of India's one billion have some sort of net access, and that many, if not most, Europeans have English as a second language; and it is the primary language of internet discourse in most non- English speaking nations (which it is) then this must be regarded as the myopic garbage that it is.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    I'm not sure which CNN channels SKY NZ shows

    CNN International...I don't think they get that same level of cats stuck in a tree in Wisconsin-ism that CNN Headline News and CNN Domestic has, but it still offers a world view that includes Wolf Blitzer looking adoringly into Cheney's eyes; or a weather woman saying to the audience as a humourous (non American spelling intended) aside "who knows where Russia is?"

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Nobody Important,

    "...there are many who see it as the voice of reason. I had that conversation with a Canadian guy, US based, in the weekend who insisted they were the only network giving balance..."

    As in 'Fair & Balanced?'. I'm not surprised, Fox News pump that slogan (Fair&Balanced) every 5 minutes. It's a standard marketing trick that advertisers know well; pump the message ad infinitum thru a high frequency campaign and the viewers will imbed it in their memory. So when you ask a kid which candy bar 'really satisfies' they can't help but reply 'Snickers'. And the kid believes it as if they'd thought it themselves. Ditto for Fox News viewers who really believe they're keeping themselves up with the play and hearing both sides. Ha!

    More insidious is the way Fox News 'kill' their chosen political 'enemies' through death-by-a-thousand-cuts. Check out how they deal to democrat Barrack Obama:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/02/22/fox-news-repeated-attemp_n_41841.html

    [apologies for going off topic]

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report

  • Riddley Walker,

    yeah that Fox 'Fair and Balanced' is a classic example of the Goebellian principle of loudly proclaiming yourself as the complete opposite of whatever (unflattering) things you ain't. It is a particular favourite of neo-con parties - i guess they know the power of marketing better than most. Expect to see a lot more of it in NZ in the coming months preceding the 2008 election.

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report

  • J Wilkinson,

    As an ex-Pentecostal Christian, I can tell you that the "interesting parody" stuff isn't that interesting at all.

    They tell you they don't believe in tradition but they're more conservative in their attitudes, thinking and behavior than modern Anglicans. What you wear to church is superficial...it’s what lies beneath that counts.

    (So glad to see that in 20 years, Christian clowning is still alive and terrorising innocent rest home victims….hmmmm…!)

    Grafton • Since Feb 2007 • 24 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    a bunch of Fox-isms here:

    Fox news At It's Finest

    Do you weep, or laugh.....

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

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