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Simon Grigg

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:32:36 +1300

a bunch of Fox-isms here:

Do you weep, or laugh.....

J Wilkinson

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:13:59 +1300

As an ex-Pentecostal Christian, I can tell you that the "interesting parody" stuff isn't that interesting at all.

They tell you they don't believe in tradition but they're more conservative in their attitudes, thinking and behavior than modern Anglicans. What you wear to church is superficial...it’s what lies beneath that…

Riddley Walker

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:28:40 +1300

yeah that Fox 'Fair and Balanced' is a classic example of the Goebellian principle of loudly proclaiming yourself as the complete opposite of whatever (unflattering) things you ain't. It is a particular favourite of neo-con parties – i guess they know the power of marketing better than most. __Expect to…

Nobody Important

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:31:58 +1300

"...there are many who see it as the voice of reason. I had that conversation with a Canadian guy, US based, in the weekend who insisted they were the only network giving balance..."

As in 'Fair & Balanced?'. I'm not surprised, Fox News pump that slogan (Fair&Balanced) every 5 minutes. It's a…

Simon Grigg

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:31:24 +1300

I'm not sure which CNN channels SKY NZ shows

CNN International...I don't think they get that same level of cats stuck in a tree in Wisconsin-ism that CNN Headline News and CNN Domestic has, but it still offers a world view that includes Wolf Blitzer looking adoringly into Cheney's eyes;…

Simon Grigg

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:24:57 +1300

9. Wikipedia often uses foreign spelling of words, even though most English-speaking users are American.

if one assumes that a third of India's one billion have some sort of net access, and that many, if not most, Europeans have English as a second language; and it is the primary language…

WH

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:12:24 +1300

corporate media's principle obligation, like any corporation, is to deliver a dividend to its shareholders

Ideally it achieves this objective by providing the public with useful information. However it is by no means a perfect process. Anyone interested in this topic might want to read Palmer's Constitution in Crisis, chapter…

Ben Austin

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:49:09 +1300

So I was reading the Conservapedia – turns out one of the reasons Wikipedia is biased is because it often converts US English spelling to British English spelling.

For shame!

__9. Wikipedia often uses foreign spelling of words, even though most English-speaking users are American. Look up "Most Favored Nation"…

Riddley Walker

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:40:55 +1300

media coverage was often misleading or just perpetrated falsehoods (not necessarily deliberately, but falsehoods all the same)

Weston – what do you think about this: corporate media's principle obligation, like any corporation, is to deliver a dividend to its shareholders. secondly to its advertisers, for their ability to help them…

omapere

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:16:21 +1300

But "News War", well ...

Excellent, thanks Russell.

WH

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:37:52 +1300

The role of the US news media in allowing Bush to come to office by portraying Al Gore as an idiot, then credulously cheerleading Bush's various foreign and domestic policy disasters after 9/11 is prolly a little understated IMO. The Scooter Libby trial has been an interesting insight into access…

Paul Lander

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:34:45 +1300

That CNN is seen by the likes of him as screamingly lefty seems to me to be an indication how far to the right the centre is in the US of A these days.

I'm not sure which CNN channels SKY NZ shows, but the two channels I'm familiar with…

Paul Lander

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:29:06 +1300

I was most surprised to hear ("Hardball" on MSNBC) that two of the jurors have already come out and stated that they support/hope that Bush will pardon Scooter. Sure he's the fall-guy, protecting Cheney and co, but they did find him guilty of lying under oath, and he is a…

Russell Brown

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:52:55 +1300

I'm interested in finding thee torrent of the Front Line doco that Russell mentioned. No luck so far ... be great if someone could point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.

My bad, actually. Searches for "Newswar" bring up nada. But "News War", well ...

http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=%22News+War%22

Span .

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:22:17 +1300

I second Riddley above, thanks for that Stephen Judd, much appreciated!

Riddley Walker

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:10:29 +1300

3 cheers for Triangle TV for putting on al Jazeera, it puts BBC world to shame, let alone the cheerful fascist pantomime that is Fox ‘news’. Shame on Prime for even broadcasting it to a sentient audience.

Russell, please don't dance with the stars, even if you're a regular John…

omapere

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:18:37 +1300

I'm interested in finding thee torrent of the Front Line doco that Russell mentioned. No luck so far ... be great if someone could point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance.

Simon Grigg

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:32:03 +1300

Does anyone know SKY TV's reasoning behind giving us Fox News (the propaganda arm of the US Republican party) over Al Jazeera – other than the Murdoch connection?

The Murdoch connection is the obvious overriding reason..Sky is Murdoch, and he sees Fox as a competitor for CNN & the BBC, and…

Stephen Judd

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:21:01 +1300

Span: "the Jewish fundamentalist position"

OK, here's the deal. Fundamentalist is not really a word you can apply to Jews. The reason is that in Christianity fundamentalism is a specific Protestant doctrine which asserts the inerrant and literal truth of their bible (of course this presents problems of internal consistency…

andrew llewellyn

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:15:20 +1300

RB, I think you deserve your own (well paid) gig on TV.
You may well think so, but I couldn't possibly comment.

Say... you reckon you might be able to dance?

Neil Morrison

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:33:22 +1300

National's ideas on forestry carbon credits deserves a bit more of a reasoned response. That the trees were planted before Kyoto will remain true no matter who gets the credits – the Government or foresters. If it's unfair for one party to reap any unforeseen benefit then it's unfair for…

Hamish Fraser

Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:05:05 +1300

I ordered the Outfoxed movie a couple of years ago – they are comedy to watch but one heck of a sad indictment on a culture that generally refuses to question what they're hearing.

The mac ad parodies were clever on a few levels – I guess it's nice to…

Span .

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:04:55 +1300

That Sky TV news drives me nuts, on the rare occasions I am in a hotel and thus get to see it. It's supposedly NZ news but there's little local in it, just lots and lots of Oz.

I'd be quite interested to know what the Islamic fundamentalist position is…

Jonty

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:49:35 +1300

Fox News breaking headline: Scooter Libby found Not Guilty of lying
to the FBI. You could not make this shit up.

Does anyone know SKY TV's reasoning behind giving us Fox News (the propaganda arm of the US Republican party) over Al Jazeera – other than the Murdoch connection?

Russell Brown

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:22:26 +1300

Ah, I think Russell can look after himself there Morgan.

Actually, I have often relied on Morgan's volunteer work as a proofreader ;-)

Mark

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:13:41 +1300

Ah, I think Russell can look after himself there Morgan.

Morgan Nichol

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:42:54 +1300

And another thing, this is Russell's site, he can shit on whatever the hell he wants to without answering to you or anyone else.

(But he still wasn't shitting on what you seem to think he was shitting on.)

Morgan Nichol

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:41:07 +1300

Wow, Mark.

I think you're really wide of the mark, I don't think our Russ was poking fun at all. I urge you to read what Russell said again, if you can wipe the scales from your eyes for just a moment.

Russell Brown

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:24:14 +1300

RB, I think you deserve your own (well paid) gig on TV.

You may well think so, but I couldn't possibly comment.

merc

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:14:52 +1300

RB, I think you deserve your own (well paid) gig on TV.

mark p baker

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:52:06 +1300

First, and just to be clear...that other Mark above is in no way aligned with this one, nor are opinions expressed necessarily shared by the management of this organic entity. So issuing of fatwah on my ass thanx.
RB, you have the winning format, we both know it. I've bought…

Russell Brown

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:02:21 +1300

Russell, unless you are going to start to shit on all religions equally (yes, even *gasp* Islam!), maybe you should give the anti-Christian stuff a rest. It's getting boring.

I thought I made it clear that I thought the ad parody clips were clever and interesting – I'm intrigued to…

Hamboy

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:52:21 +1300

It's not anti-Christian stuff, it's anti loopy-christian stuff.
A small group that seem to have a very loud voice and unfortunately seem to have tainted our view of what the term 'Christian' means.

Mark

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:44:15 +1300

Russell, unless you are going to start to shit on all religions equally (yes, even *gasp* Islam!), maybe you should give the anti-Christian stuff a rest. It's getting boring.

jon_knox

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:56:05 +1300

The Independent has a couple of articles about the UK's equivalent of the DPB and getting people off benefits and back into employment.

I thought the parallels with godzone were interesting (as probably are the differences).

Richard Bartlett

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:50:58 +1300

That Christ-follower vs. Christian series of clips is bizarre – I don't see the value of ditching the name 'Christian' and the associated centuries of history. After all, that's half the point of being a Christian (or any religion) – it provides you with a connection to the past, validating…

Ben Austin

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:45:15 +1300

Why own a business if you can't use it to push your viewpoints?

Russell Brown

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:32:05 +1300

Conservapedia, Godtube...jeez wayne – what's next? JesusSpace?

Why yes ...

http://www.jesusspace.com/

Actually not a real website so much as a placeholder set up to game Google ads.

bob daktari

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:27:00 +1300

Fox News – best comedy on the telly

TroyHoward

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:25:24 +1300

Conservapedia, Godtube...jeez wayne – what's next? JesusSpace?

BTW, you know that kinda cool science/nature/boardgames/geeky toys/telescope shop Nature Discoveries? www.nature.co.nz

Paid any attention to their tagline: Helping you Explore the Wonders of Creation

A few years ago these guys used to stock a range of fauxscience religious books. Gone are the…

Public Address

Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:25:23 +1300

Discussion from blog post.