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Oh, and on a very serious note this "consmopolitan" elitist has a suggestions for Palin and Guiliani:
Go fuck yourselves.
Governor Palin: You might like to consider any quality of life that will be enjoyed by your youngest child -- the one being passed around like a party favour for the cameras -- is due in large part to those elitists you poured scorn on today.
And, Rudy, you stood up in front of the world and spat in the faces of the gay couple who opened their home to you while you were going through a very nasty and public divorce directly attributable to YOUR adultery. You were Mayor of a city that is an icon of metropolitan energy and diversity in all its glories and flaws.
Character. Leadership. Integrity. My mulatto faggot arse.
Still, I think we've seen amble evidence that moderate Republicans and swing voters have been firmly - and not at all politely -- told to piss off. And everything depends on nothing coming out about Palin that even the most psychotic theo-cons can't squint past.
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Oh boy. I don't know what is going to happen next in the Sarah Palin story, but one thing is now for sure: John McCain has picked an Alaskan Margaret Thatcher to be his running mate.
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OMFG what a faux surprise
And what a surprise that the usual suspects on Fox have turned an alleged news network into a cross between the SciFi Channel and a live feed from a psych ward.
Sage: Can you point to any substantive policy position Palin took on that stage?
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Sage: Can you point to any substantive policy position Palin took on that stage?
After reading your prior post, which I read after I posted my link, perhaps best I leave you alone for a while. I dont want to ruin your blood pressure :^)
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This is just for Craig ;^)
Oh, nice try Sage. Now, what is Palin's postion on taxation, government spending, defence or any damn thing? Lady Thatcher actually had read experience, a brain in her pretty little head and the ability to use it. I know Lady Thatcher's career, she is an icon of mine, and you, Governor Palin, are no Lady Thatcher. She wouldn't have let a lightweight like you into Number Ten unless you were pushing a tea trolly.
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After reading your prior post, which I read after I posted my link, perhaps best I leave you alone for a while. I dont want to ruin your blood pressure :^)
Well, I've give you some time to make shit up because I've got a transcript in front of me and there's nothing.
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sorry craig i am ROFLMAO. I know full well Thatcher is iconic to both of us. But winding you up is fun.
seriously, after all the shit that was flung earlier in the week it was a nice touch to bring the boy on stage. That speech was always going to be about introducing herself to the electorate.
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After reading your prior post, which I read after I posted my link, perhaps best I leave you alone for a while. I dont want to ruin your blood pressure :^)
we'll take that as a no then....
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Now, what is Palin's postion on taxation, government spending, defence or any damn thing?
Oh she has one..it's all gods will..seriously....
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seriously, after all the shit that was flung earlier in the week it was a nice touch to bring the boy on stage
Well, Sage, to use one of your favourite words it's about "character". You don't bitch (through proxies) about the "liberal media" using your family to try and beat up on a woman - yeah, I get Palin has a vagina just like Hillary. I'm over it. -- then pass around your disabled infant like a new Prada handbag.
That speech was always going to be about introducing herself to the electorate.
Well, it certainly did that -- she hasn't changed my view that she isn't qualified or competent. But I would have given full credit for a substantive speech. She had to bring an A-game of "You turn if you want to, the Lady's not for turning" proportions. (That punchline actually had some substantive meat behind it.) Ranting like Ann Coulter on crack wasn't it -- it wasn't even a B-game but bush league. But as I've said, it looks like any attempt to appeal to the center has been flagged and it's a matter of whip up the base by any means possible.
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Back to something that makes me yawn less, and hopefully twists fewer knickers.
Valve technology actually makes damned good sense
I read something about MiG 25s being able to start up in freezing conditions and just take off, whereas the flash American equivalents had all this fancy anti-icing gear and suchlike.
Reminded me of the million dollars of US R&D to produce the "space pen" that could write upside down in zero G - anyone remember those? The Ruskies sharing the Space Station used a pencil, apparently.
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I meant the 17 year old boy father. We can disagree all night about whether it is right to bring your family on stage. Obama did and thats OK? But not for Palin after the loon frenzy???
IMHO, the family and the boy being their was a firmly raised upright middle finger in the direction of the liberal media. The baby is part of that family. I certainly dont think read or hear her using them as protection.
struggling to make sense again Simon? The gods will reference was to the outcome in Iraq.
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But not for Palin after the loon frenzy???
C'mon SageNz surely this is not that tricky. Palin on one hand pleads that her kids and family should be left out of it..for privacy. Then immediately flies the kids, including the one who ain't even part of the nuclear family yet but has impregnated her daughter, down to St. Paul to do the heartstring hand holding (you can see the strategists saying 'hold that hand, hold that hand' on the way out) family stuff for the good ol' white folks out there...i.e. using him and the rest for political advantage.
I agree with you, it's loony and yep, it's both hypocritical and dishonest.
See, you're coming around slowly
And gods will was a reference to Iraq..that's true, but the point eludes you again..she actually said "a task that is from God." Considering the massive fuck up that the last 5 years have seen there, that she is placing her faith in god there instead of coming up with a reasoned policy would surely give most people pause for thought.
What else is a "task that is from God?" I think we need to know, but they're hiding her from the media so no-one can ask.
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Obama did and thats OK?
I'd actually prefer no politician anywhere uses their families as stump props -- especially very small children who've no idea what's going on, let alone being in a position to assent.
But let's get real here: the Obama campaign wasn't issuing press releases the day of his convention appearance bleating about the media using his family as an offensive weapon. "Out of bounds" means just that, doesn't it? Or are we back in po-mo mode where meaning changes from moment to moment?
And for all the proxy machismo going on, I think Palin is going to have to harden up for real. She can rave about the "liberal media" to the faithful all she likes, but what the hell are McCain and Palin going to do for four years if they win? Never hold a press conference, or answer any questions at all unless you're on the list of approved outlets? Is she going to keep Trig in the East Wing, to be thrust at any uppity "liberal media" person who has the gall to ask impertinently tough questions?
And if she really want to earn the title of "Alaskan Thatcher", I don't recall her every wheeling out Mark and Carol for the cameras every time things got hairy.
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sacha - brilliant! I am enjoying those interludes of practicality.
craig - substantive policy references, including some international influences
With Russia wanting to control a vital pipeline in the Caucasus, and to divide and intimidate our European allies by using energy as a weapon, we cannot leave ourselves at the mercy of foreign suppliers.
Our opponents say, again and again, that drilling will not solve all of America's energy problems - as if we all didn't know that already.But the fact that drilling won't solve every problem is no excuse to do nothing at all.
Starting in January, in a McCain-Palin administration, we're going to lay more pipelines ... build more nuclear plants ... create jobs with clean coal ... and move forward on solar, wind, geothermal, and other alternative sources.
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Government is too big ... he wants to grow it.
Congress spends too much ... he promises more.
Taxes are too high ... he wants to raise them
Victory in Iraq is finally in sight ... he wants to forfeit.Simon - Can you point me to your criticisms of Obama for putting his kids on stage. And do you really think the 17 year old would have made it to the stage if he had not been named and shamed in the national media? ... Yeah right. "Who is the redneck kid?" , "dunno" , "Maybe her illegitimate son" ......LOON FRENZY :^)
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Just remember to pop those blood pressure meds before responding Craig :^)
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the Obama campaign wasn't issuing press releases the day of his convention appearance bleating about the media using his family as an offensive weapon.
ah maybe that is because the republican sympathetic media were not in a frenzy just making shit up about them.
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And gods will was a reference to Iraq..that's true, but the point eludes you again..she actually said "a task that is from God."
I had no idea God has legal or constitutional authority to declare way or deploy the armed forces of the United States of America. You learn something new every day, don't you?
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I'd actually prefer no politician anywhere uses their families as stump props
I'm still trying to get over Gore kissing Tipper. Ah, the humanity!...
But Americans in many ways elect a first family, don't they, a pair of quadriennial constituional monarchs with tots in tow (occasionally they get to succeed their fathers, too - the adorable little nippers!). The family is always in the picture, this is nothing new.
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I read something about MiG 25s being able to start up in freezing conditions and just take off, whereas the flash American equivalents had all this fancy anti-icing gear and suchlike.
And they were far simpler to fly than any US aircraft from the 1960s onwards (although earlier Soviet jets, like the MiG-21s were beasts I believe) and far simpler to maintain and build.
And they carried that through to the 80s and 90s where the more recent Sukhois and MiGs were easily the tactical equivalent on the F-15 / F-16 but were a fraction the price.
A few years back the USAF went up against the Indians flying MiGs in a competition and the MiG's completely wiped the Americans out of the sky..it caused a bit of a noise at the time.
American military technological bloat was and still is a major issue, which may be why the a British general called them Teched Up Teletubbies a few years back. But then you have an industrial machine that demands and feeds off that bloat.
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Simon - Can you point me to your criticisms of Obama for putting his kids on stage.
damn, Sage..these are really simple points but you miss them.
It was her, not Obama that demanded privacy for her kids....c'mon this is not that tricky.
And policy points..no..those are vague nothings to appeal to the converted, not policy. And all written by somebody else and read from a teleprompter.
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craig - substantive policy references, including some international influences
Where were they again? Speech writer Matt Scully has looked at the front page of a newspaper over the last couple of weeks and has heard of Russia. And an incoming administration is magically going to get into the energy infrastructure game. How? And will Trig start pulling pennies out of his nose to pay for it -- because the new Congress might want to see an appropriations bill for that promise.
Government is too big ... he wants to grow it.
Congress spends too much ... he promises more.
Taxes are too high ... he wants to raise them
Victory in Iraq is finally in sight ... he wants to forfeit.And that's not substantive policy but platitudes.
How is McCain-Palin going to shrink government? Apart from firing everyone working in the White House kitchens, and putting Air Force One on E-Bay?
How is McCain-Palin going to restrain Congress. What criteria would McCain use to veto a spending bill? In case of a tied vote on said spending bills, what criteria would Palin apply to use her casting vote to defeat it?
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You learn something new every day, don't you?
Nope it's policy Craig and that policy is taking us all to the place where:
Victory in Iraq is finally in sight
simplistic platitudes for the converted..not policy, Sage.
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How is McCain-Palin going to shrink government? Apart from firing everyone working in the White House kitchens, and putting Air Force One on E-Bay?
ha..brill....
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the rules of this little game were not that hard
point to any substantive policy position
There is an energy policy in there. An attitude to taxes, Iraq, size of government. You asked for policy positions not detailed policy prescriptions. so I found some. Running after those goalposts again? ;^)
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