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Hard News: Friday Music: Impermanence

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  • Danielle, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    That bilious yellow suit is magnificent. Also, I want that dude's shoes.

    The Atlantic article is very interesting but sheds no light on my favourite part, Inexplicable Pelvic-Thrusting Cowboy Hat Guy in Elevator (at about 1.55). Yes, I have watched this video one gazillion times. DON'T JUDGE ME.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP, in reply to Danielle,

    That bilious yellow suit is magnificent. Also, I want that dude’s shoes.

    That video is AWESOME! Just watched if for the first of a gazillion times. Are your sure Gangnam Style isn't Korean for ‘ZOMG Ponies’?

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2450 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Danielle,

    That bilious yellow suit

    The colour of bilirubin! Which is important stuff. I'm sure you wanted to know that.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    As someone who has at least a couple of thousand CDs (backed up on several devices) and who has *never* bought anything from iTunes, I am wondering what the fuss is about?

    Bilirubin, however, is a wholly different ball game...

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Islander,

    Oh nothing, nothing. It's just a magnificently overblown satirical deconstruction of the art of music videos as we understand them. With a bunch of hooks and a horsey-dance. Nowt to see here.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Aston, in reply to Islander,

    Bilirubin, however, is a wholly different ball game…

    Quite . As the link says "Bilirubin is excreted in bile and urine"
    I dunno but the words excrete, urine and bile in the same sentence doesn't do anything for me.
    Happy and comfortable taking a piss any time but excreting urine ?

    Northland • Since Nov 2006 • 510 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    back up to Zip disks

    I still have my thesis on zip disks and floppies.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report Reply

  • Ray Gilbert, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    I still have my thesis on zip disks and floppies.

    My EDAX ststem that I had on the electron microscope I was using in the mid ninties had 8 inch floppy disks - with a whoping 179kB capacity on each.

    Since Nov 2006 • 104 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    I still have my thesis on zip disks and floppies.

    Are you absolutely sure about that? When did you last check you could still access the data?

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 893 posts Report Reply

  • Samuel Scott,

    CDR's and DVDR's give me nightmares. But then storing stuff on USB hard drives doesn't seem great either. I have so much material that is overdue for a re-backup I literally feel sick in my stomach thinking about it. Digital file management. Yuck.

    AND no one else in my band has ever EVER (literally never ever, forever ever?) backed up any of our music. Do they think our stuff just magical keeps on existing!?

    That PSY song rules. I love it. Best video of the year for certain.

    South Wellington • Since Feb 2008 • 315 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to Samuel Scott,

    Do they think our stuff just magical keeps on existing!?

    Quite possibly they do. The experience of being in charge of the office computers has shown me that an awful lot of people are technologically very naive, and that there is absolutely no correlation between that naivite and age.

    And hasn't the promise with each new storage technology been that "this one will last forever!"? Or did the marketers give up on that as everybody realised were incapable of forever?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to FletcherB,

    When did you last check you could still access the data?

    Well since the zip drive died, and was thrown away, that could be tricky.

    I also have copies lurking on my hard drive, well actually on several hard drives. Oh and there's the paper copy on the shelf above my desk ... which I STILL use!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4461 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Chris Waugh,

    And hasn’t the promise with each new storage technology been that “this one will last forever!”? Or did the marketers give up on that as everybody realised were incapable of forever?

    I posted on Geekzone about this issue a couple of years ago. Since then, the cost of Blu-ray backup has dropped slightly, as has solid-state storage, but they’re still reasonably expensive by the gigabyte.

    Traditionally, backup media has gone by the mantra, “pick any two of the following: cheap, reliable, and convenient.”

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Anything with flash in (USB sticks, SSDs) it is specced for maybe 10 years.

    I wouldn't trust magnetic media for much longer than that either (see here for some analysis) although in the case of a lot of failure modes, recovery might be possible with (expensive) clean-room techniques.

    Your best bet is to keep your data on a regularly replaced drive at home *and* at a cloud provider. Or at two independent cloud providers.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    “pick any two of the following: cheap, reliable, and convenient.”

    I would hope that reliable is always one of the two picked. And on that measure, surely the humble book is a stand-out performer? I have in my possession books old enough to have the obligatory foreword by Mao Zedong, I used to collect National Geographics and had issues dating to the late 19th century, and there are, of course, much older books out there, many still very useable even after hundreds of years (although the older they are the more care they need, of course). And Rich tells us these fancy new-fangled things are good for maybe 10 years.

    'scuse me while I pack my inner Luddite back into his cell. Don't know how he escaped.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis, in reply to Danielle,

    The Atlantic article is very interesting but sheds no light on my favourite part, Inexplicable Pelvic-Thrusting Cowboy Hat Guy in Elevator (at about 1.55). Yes, I have watched this video one gazillion times. DON'T JUDGE ME.

    Sorry, joined this a bit late. The cowboy dude in the elevator is a famous Korean comedian. There may be some 'deeper' meaning for it but from my following of Korean comedy shows/humour I'd say it's more likely just them playing silly buggars.

    I spend most Friday and Saturday nights getting boozed watching sport on the telly while my wife sits in front of the computer getting boozed watching Korean drama's and comedies, and game shows etc.

    They have a group of about 20? famous comedians who do 'gag shows' each week (that would feature anything from say 4 of them to a dozen or more depending on the format, and when one gets a bit stale they ditch it and come up with a new one. They are extremely low budget and extremely bloody popular.

    Even with my rudimentary Korean they can be quite entertaining as they rely a lot on sight gags, often involving some degree of pain.

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis, in reply to Danielle,

    The Atlantic article is very interesting but sheds no light on my favourite part, Inexplicable Pelvic-Thrusting Cowboy Hat Guy in Elevator (at about 1.55). Yes, I have watched this video one gazillion times. DON'T JUDGE ME.

    Here's a clip of this years incarnation featuring cowboy hat dude (though with his hair dyed).
    http://www.youtube.com/show/mbcen

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Oh and there’s the paper copy on the shelf above my desk … which I STILL use!

    If it's not lifting your computer monitor to the right height, you're not doing it right.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Yamis,

    The cowboy dude in the elevator is a famous Korean comedian.

    Why I love this place, reason 457. Thanks!

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

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