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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • Sacha, in reply to Marc C,

    he could not bother telling the police, because he is not absolutely certain

    He didn't say that was the reason - just that he couldn't be bovvered.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19735 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Dismal Soyanz,

    "Having a look", how big brother is that.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Marc C, in reply to Sacha,

    That makes it even worse. It shows though is casual, yet cunning manner of doing things. The Smiling Assassin is still very much what he was like when he was the merchant banker and speculator.

    Auckland • Since Oct 2012 • 437 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Marc C,

    It's the National Party. What a lovely bunch.

    The National Party, desperately clutching the pearls, waiting for us all to become decent Nat folk. Oh, if only all white people were like that nice Mike Hoskings.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Marc C,

    a professional liar for his whole working life

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19735 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    "i know sumfink you don't ... i'm not telling you wot coz it's a secret but i deffo know it honest i do .... can you keep a secret so can i tee hee ... i don't care anyway see if i care coz i don't ... i said i really don't ... but i do know sumfink you don't and i'm not telling you so there."

    A 7 year old, yesterday. Also, a Prime Minister.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1330 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison,

    Who gets to abridge their own biography so soon. Textor-Crosby rock. Every month we’ll have a new chapter , Uncle Johns views on the opposition, chapters awaiting.

    Biographer is now a dirty word.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Jack Harrison,

    Roughan has long been a dirty word.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19735 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Bouquets against the New World Ordure...
    Nice to see Public Address get a thumbs up from a creator of the On the Left blog, in Philip Matthews' article Should Left Wing bloggers just shut up in The Press.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7948 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Following his unsuccessful legal action against APN, Fairfax and MediaWorks to prevent publication of rawshark-sourced data, Slater has been ordered to pay $15,000 costs to the news organisations.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1436 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Key sends Slater a written apology for releasing the email which sunk Judith Collins. No lessons learned there then.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1436 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Alfie,

    It's just part of the PR setup for this week's release of the report, to distance the PM. Continues the handy fiction of Slater as an aggrieved victim compared with that scurrilous Hager character profiting from stolen emails, I tells you. Memes need watering.

    Also introduces the handy focus-group-tested phrase "election issue" which is aligned with "public interest". These will be useful for the other inquiry into leaking of intel for political purposes.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19735 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Key sends Slater a written apology for releasing the email which sunk Judith Collins. No lessons learned there then.

    I'm not sure I have a problem with this. Slater has a right to privacy too, which the PM presumably breached, and a public apology is part of the settlement arranged with the Privacy Commissioner.

    Even scumbags etc...

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    The first independently verified Dirty Politics story will result in an apology to Phil Goff re SIS briefings.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/260144/sis-report-set-to-criticise-agency

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3225 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    It's just further evidence that National/Key fully understand how to play the cynical game - and win. They're very good at it, unfortunately.

    Once the election is over, nothing matters. Repeat, with emphasis: it simply doesn't matter any more. Of course it should matter, very much. But now, investigations can reveal, surpluses can disappear, lies can be exposed - with no consequences for those in power. The votes have been cast and counted, and any shouts of "See! We told you" will be overtaken by new events, long before the next time the voters have their say. Heck, it'll probably be forgotten over summer. Or at least, ignored.

    The lasting effect is to increase public contempt for their representatives, and further damage the fragile contract between the governed and their governors. Ultimately, to erode our hard-won democracy.

    Sadly, National couldn't care less about that.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1330 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    PS Herald on Sunday editorial, 3 months ago, describes Hager's Dirty Politics as:

    "a book that attempts to smear Key by association with an unsavoury blogger."

    Still, it's just fish and chip paper now, who cares that voters once read it?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1330 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to simon g,

    It’s just further evidence that National/Key fully understand how to play the cynical game – and win.

    Ultimately that's not a game worthy of winning and although their timing is astute in that their damage control appears to berid that damned spot as soon as it appears, John Key remains a festering wound that will eventually pop.
    Soon now , you'll see. at least Emmerson can

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    Paul Buchanan suitably scathing on morning report. Bad enough at any time. In the run-up to an election it amounts to subverting democracy.
    Add the SIS ‘losing’ the recording of Key’s briefingon dotcom and the PMs involvement in appointing thehead of the GCSB and confidence in these institutions is gone.
    Eta: ideological appointments into other public service top jobs and cynical abuse of OIA also seem rife. That may be the story of this govt. Good government requires a well run and independent public service.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2110 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to simon g,

    Ultimately, to erode our hard-won democracy.

    Just so long as we aren't mistaking 'democracy' for freedom...
    as National and the like-minded whittle away the representation of the whole population down to a bag of pegs for their dirty laundry...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7948 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Add the SIS ‘losing’ the recording of Key’s briefingon dotcom and the PMs involvement in appointing thehead of the GCSB and confidence in these institutions is gone.

    I was just reminding Phil Goff of that with regard to this Bill in the House today. Not as eloquently as you put it. Perhaps you could email that entire comment to him or Little or your local Mp. Well said. I urge anyone concerned about yet another ill thought out ,already fudged on Tv by Key with his weasel words, legislation, that ultimately will have many faults that will cost us,the people, yet more of our democracy and freedom. Andrew Little said they were still waiting to see the Bill. Key says they have. More lies. My American passport was stolen many years ago. I have not been able to renew it . I now can only spend 45 days in the States to see Family. My entire Family have American Passports except me. That's around 500 people in my Family. I was seen to be some problem somewhere. NZ Customs already have a lot to answer for. They already have laws around Passports. We dont need no stinkin' more.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart, in reply to simon g,

    Once the election is over, nothing matters. Repeat, with emphasis: it simply doesn't matter any more. Of course it should matter, very much. But now, investigations can reveal, surpluses can disappear, lies can be exposed - with no consequences for those in power. The votes have been cast and counted, and any shouts of "See! We told you" will be overtaken by new events, long before the next time the voters have their say. Heck, it'll probably be forgotten over summer. Or at least, ignored.

    The lasting effect is to increase public contempt for their representatives, and further damage the fragile contract between the governed and their governors. Ultimately, to erode our hard-won democracy.

    +1
    I couldn't find the words but you did.

    I think we may now qualify for Banana Republic status, where those in power routinely use the machinery of government to achieve their desires.

    I don't suppose Her Majesty, via the National appointed GG can get us out of this mess? She'll probably have trouble believing that nice Mr Key has such a nasty side. Does our machinery of state allow for this sort of thing? We seem to have little in the way of effective checks and balances (no pun intended).

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald, in reply to Angela Hart,

    Ditto, ditto, ditto.

    A wee spring in my step this morning, hoping that perhaps, this will finish him off once and for all.

    "Nah", said HWMBO as I was wrestling him into his wheelchair, "he'll slime his way out as he usually does".

    He's like an eel in a bucket of snot.

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1346 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    All you need to know about how Key operates:

    1) Mr Key said he had received an "unreserved" apology from the SIS for providing misleading information to his office. He said the SIS head's apology to Mr Goff was also appropriate. (Herald)

    2) Collins report due out at noon.

    So - nothing to see here, I'm just a magnanimous victim, but just in case you don't buy that (i.e. if you have a functioning brain), here's something else to see instead. Pronto.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1330 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    For those playing along at home, the IGIS public report is available here

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Russell has written a fresh post about the Gwyn report.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19735 posts Report Reply

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