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  • Joe Wylie,

    prose that can sing and put-downs that zing.

    Which occasionally more than verge on outright nastiness, as happened with the recent manifestly undeserved attacks on merc.

    You're kind, Rob. I'm sure it wouldn't detract from Craig's pithiness to employ a similar generosity of spirit.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Craig is getting the bash at Kiwiblog for hanging out with dirty lefties

    So where's he doing that then?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg,

    But under attack he tends to get cryptic and use multi-levels of irony that are very hard to read.

    oh, I thought that was just me and my literary inadequacies. I feel much better now.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3283 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Fitzgerald,

    There is a point in time by which we should move on and I'm glad Annette King has drawn a line in the sand here. After an indepth report into the dirty dark 80s is as good as any and better than most. Fund raiser with old rugby movies - does anyone believe that? That was then and this is now.
    Is Annett King proposing a statute of limitations be introduced into NZ law?

    Since May 2007 • 631 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Which occasionally more than verge on outright nastiness, as happened with the recent manifestly undeserved attacks on merc.

    You're kind, Rob. I'm sure it wouldn't detract from Craig's pithiness to employ a similar generosity of spiri.

    Ngggg. Can I point out that Craig hasn't said a word to Merc on this thread for two days, since well before page 15 where Merc wrote three do-you-want-a-fight posts. And then Merc's back this afternoon trying to rev it up again over something Craig said on another blog. Please, mate, I value your presence a lot, but just chill.

    I've asked Craig to tone it down, now I'm asking Merc. You've expressed a grievance against me that you're welcome to take up by email, but please don't keep trying to relitigate it here.

    Afterthought: Agghh ... that probably sounds too snippy, but in the end I did have to go back through every page of the thread and that probably made me grumpy in itself. As usual, it'll probably piss some people off, but I read it all back again and, on balance, I didn't think it was Craig who'd been provocative. Independent of that, this kind of thing only works well when people assume goodwill. That's important.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22843 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    OK, they were not "do you want to fight" posts, I considered I was being censored in a hostile way by Craig, and I posted the quote from another thread because I think Craig was referring to being censored himself and I wondered by whom, thas all.
    I don't have a grievance against you RB, but I do wonder why you think I have.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    OK, they were not "do you want to fight" posts, I considered I was being censored in a hostile way by Craig, and I posted the quote from another thread because I think Craig was referring to being censored himself and I wondered by whom, thas all.

    See above, plus afterthought. I don't think you were being censored, I thought you were being disagreed with.

    I don't have a grievance against you RB, but I do wonder why you think I have.

    Because you keep mentioning me in your posts about the dispute, and you wouldn't let me even have an opinion without declaring it a "Craig defence", which I thought was really unnecessary. Please, email me and let's sort it out.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22843 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Sure, I'm going to have me dinner first though.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Neil Morrison,

    Ngggg

    I that a Marge Simpsonism?

    Since Nov 2006 • 932 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    Blast, I can't email out from this account, though I've had a chance to think it over and feel there is no use in it for me.
    So, I retire from the field head held high, perhaps I did play a little hardball there but hey, in real life if someone would try to shut me down with the old conspiracy theorist thang, then cries crystal clear do you hear this is the Readers Digest version for you, well I'd have a go, yeah.
    So it goes, last post, thanks for the fish and all that.
    Riddley, Hamish, and Milo, take care of MerkProductionz (TM), definitely the most fun I've ever had online, now don't fight over my share and never take anyone seriously except yourselves.
    Enough or too much! Blake.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    While we're on housekeeping, I've locked dad4justice's account, for trolling, and for being a wee bit scary.

    I did it a couple of days ago, but didn't want to say so until I was sure his session had ended and he wasn't still logged in.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22843 posts Report Reply

  • Anne M,

    More than a wee bit

    Since Nov 2006 • 104 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    More than a wee bit

    Fair enough.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22843 posts Report Reply

  • Riddley Walker,

    m, well that will make two of us.
    i need the laughs we had, that was a lot of fun.

    <parody of kiwibog> but i sure as hell don't need the shitty bitchiness of Lincoln Meyer types who crave the abuse inherent in supporting parties that despise their own ethnicity and sexuality, and who hang out where they're not welcome. maybe it reminds him of his dad. good work though, that's 3 down in the race to the gutter <parody of kiwibog>

    Good luck with PA Russell, you're a rare credit to nz journalism and, parodies aside, the promotion democratic discourse. I realise i over-reacted to and misinterpreted what i thought was yet another piece of two-face attack commentary. But i took to heart the issues concerning bullying and i am not interested in having to tolerate it.
    G'Bye.

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Russell:

    Can you please deactivate my account, because 1) I think that's the only outcome that's going to satisfy some people, and 2) I don't really any point in continuing to contribute to a forum where I generate this much angst.

    I'd also like to publicly apologise for providing the occasion for attacks on your personal integrity that (IMO) were totally out of line, and absolutely unfair.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Riddley, make a grand exit if you must, but that "parody" was nasty and hurtful.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22843 posts Report Reply

  • Nobody Important,

    Sheesh, did I miss something?
    Sorry, but I was watching Attack of The 50 Foot Drama Queens

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report Reply

  • Felix Marwick,

    geez what's with the angst against Craig? To be honest I don't see what the fuss is about. Sure he may be a bit acid at times but at least he backs up his arguments with reasoned debate.

    If anyone's taken offence at his comments please consider this:

    Would you rather debate D4J?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 200 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    wtf? i take a day off and r and merc flip out?

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    Funny old world. I thought Craig's reported entry on Kiwiblog was shear brilliance. If you are still reading at all Craig, kudos to you.

    I also like his podcasts which have a different tone again. Interesting how the mediums filter perception.

    Riddley and merc, some would see filling threads with an incessant stream of "witty" comments as also closing down debate. It's worth re-thinking how you perceive folk you disagree with online. All you have done now is make Ian Wishart and his supporters very happy.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    wtf? i take a day off and r and merc flip out?

    Actually a lot of people were doing summersaults all the way back on page 9.

    Jeez, people...THEATRE!

    I don't really any point in continuing to contribute to a forum where I generate this much...

    THEATRE!

    i took to heart the issues concerning bullying and i am not interested in having to tolerate...

    THEATRE!

    now don't fight over my share and never take anyone seriously except...

    THEATRE!

    NI had it right: Attack of The 50 Foot Drama Queens

    In real life if someone's an @rsehole you just call them that and walk off. But that doesn't mean you chuck your toys and never come back to a good party* to discuss issues with others. Even if that @rsehole is still there.

    Isn't that the wonder of Web 2.0? If we all just leave after a stoush then we create silos and we'll have no place for decent arguement. (though that dad4justice guy was a little nuts).

    This is not my last post. I talk to freakin' much for that.

    *that's right I called the system a party.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    ps. all the caps and bolds were not yelling.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • hamishm,

    and never come back to a good party

    An important point Hadyn.

    some would see filling threads with an incessant stream of "witty" comments as also closing down debate

    Then some would be wrong. Give me a forum filled with "wit" rather than the sewer.

    When you get pissed off on a forum it's best to just leave it alone for 2 or 3 days. There will always be another thread, as RB stated.

    I am very sorry to see m and R go, I have never had so many shared laughs from an online conversation. They know what's best for them though and I wish them well on the voyage.

    Since Nov 2006 • 357 posts Report Reply

  • Finn Higgins,

    An important point Hadyn.

    Get it right! It's spelled Haydon ;)

    Wellington • Since Apr 2007 • 209 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    no. thatbloodydoesit!!

    bugger s.59!! if r and merc don't get their skinny hampster/machine arses back into this space right now.... well... i just don't know how bloody crazy i'm going to go!!

    right now damnit!! and that bloody buzzard too! milo! if you can hear me! back! now!

    and deb!! if you're even still listening!!! HAVE A NICE DAY. and please come back. we miss you.

    I AM FRICKIN' LOSING IT!

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

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