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Hard News: About Campbell Live

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  • Roger Lacey,

    What seems to be forgotten in much of the debate is that TV3 is a commercial enterprise and is entitled to do whatever its management think will make it the most money. It just happens that TV3 has let John Campbell to create a show that has become part of our cultural heritage.
    Unfortunately Campbell Live has been so successful that it allowed TVNZ to embark on its disconnection with public service broadcasting with almost no protest. It's only now that Campbell Live is under threat that we have woken up to the fact that there will soon be no one left on TV who is prepared to ask the hard questions and stand up for the underdog.
    As for TVNZ's part, its management has done nothing but squander its resources and talent to pay for the bloated salaries of its executives and self-anointed "stars". It should be be stripped of the NZ bit and sold on Trade Me for $1 reserve. Profits (if any) from the sale should be used to set up a TVNZ7 type channel showcasing local talent, providing informed debate and a new home for John Campbell and his team.

    Whatakataka Bay Surf Club… • Since Apr 2008 • 148 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Roger Lacey,

    TV3 is a commercial enterprise and is entitled to do whatever its management think will make it the most money.

    Broadcasting is a limited, regulated industry. Licences can include whatever conditions governments decide to negotiate in the public interest.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    If that is true then it is also equally true for 7 Sharp, and the various radio shows hosted by Hosking and Henry and their ilk.

    IMHO the 6pm news is also largely entertainment, going by how it's structured and advertised, on both major channels. I guess there have always been elements of entertainment, but lately I think it's become much more than a decade or two ago.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1142 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Roger Lacey,

    What seems to be forgotten in much of the debate is that TV3 is a commercial enterprise

    ... which uses a national resource owned by all New Zealanders.

    Essentially what Sasha said.

    Too many commercial enterprises forget the many national resources that society pays for that enable their commercial activity.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4460 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Sacha,

    Broadcasting is a limited, regulated industry. Licences can include whatever conditions governments decide to negotiate in the public interest.

    Hi Sacha. Does this carry in any way to internet streaming, given that things tend to be moving that way? If not then more general media regulation would probably be more relevant over time, at which point I suppose you run into the problems of trying to define what counts as 'media'.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1142 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to izogi,

    what counts as ‘media’.

    are tattoos media?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to izogi,

    Does Campbell Live really hold the government to account, though?
    Doesn’t doing so require obtaining explanations from authorities?

    A big part of the 'holding to account' process is getting information air-time, and effecting a change (whether anyone fronts to explain or not) - arguably the 'Zero Hours' back down has been massively aided by Campbell's championing of the fight - and now Woodhouse has said they'll amend the legislation - looks and smells like being held accountable to me (even if they are just driven by fear of missing out)

    - it will also be interesting to watch Simon Bridges try to wriggle out of offering to double-lane a Northland bridge the NZTA had advised his office prior to the blatant bribe being made that it could not be double-laned!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Speaking of Champions - I can't see how the American people will buy Hillary Clinton as a 'Champion' of the little people, more fools if they do!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    Logically the PM in particular should stop making any radio and TV appearances.

    John Key appeared on roughly half of the stories on last night's TV3 News -- even on a sports story! While I'm used to seeing him get more coverage than is healthy in a democracy, asking the Minister for Everything to comment on every bloody story is bordering on the ridiculous, even for the new, Nat-friendly TV3.

    Here's a Herald link to Key's inane 'people prefer fluff' comments aired on Newstalk ZB this morning.

    A subdued, unquestioning population must be a politician's wet dream.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to izogi,

    Oh I’d love to see our regulations updated to match the reality – to take one angle, as commentator Paul Brislen was saying earlier, think NZ on Screens rather than NZ on Air.

    If we decide news has public value beyond being entertaining, then let’s make arrangements accordingly. Same with local stories, live performances, multimedia art and other cultural forms. There are many ways to do that with both markets and regulations.

    I would also like to see acts of journalism recognised with legal privileges, rather than those being attached to people or organisations who are no longer keeping up their end of the social contract to hold power to account and provide information to enable citizenship in its fullest sense.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Kim Hill, Morning Report, now = I feel less Barbarians at the gate-ish

    I know!
    just hearing her there today made me feel years younger and more optimistic – some weird deja voodoo going on there…

    I keep picturing Guyon Espiner barricading himself in his studio in Auckland: "Make the scary lady go away!"

    Such a refreshing change from Susie "how did that make you feel" Ferguson. But I suppose she's only on holiday...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Neither of those claims is a direct quote, so maybe he said something slightly different, but … wow.

    Apart from the bit in quotes:
    “Well, its role in life is not to hold the government to account. It’s to entertain its viewers and basically follow news stories, but a great many of those don’t involve the government. Some do.”

    It was updated at 1:15pm, so they may have added that after you looked at it.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Speaking of Champions – I can’t see how the American people will buy Hillary Clinton as a ‘Champion’ of the little people, more fools if they do!

    They may regard her as the lesser of two weevils, espcially if the other weevil is Jeb Bush. But we digress..

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    If the little people are women, they might. There are significant gender issues this election as it's the first time a woman has stood for president. That's actually quite a big deal.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3227 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to nzlemming,

    Attachment

    But we digress..

    Yes. For those who Know her, RIP Stella Bella Boo

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    As usual, Bryce Edwards has a useful summary of the media and blog coverage of the Campbell Live affair.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to nzlemming,

    the lesser of two weevils, espcially if the other weevil is Jeb Bush. But we digress..

    yes, plenty of time for that - 19 months and an obscene amount of money spent on confetti guns and gala dinners, to go...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    If the little people are women, they might. …it’s the first time a woman has stood for president. That’s actually quite a big deal.

    True, but I don’t know that having a Black President has advanced the lot of the AfroAmerican cause that much at all – if anything it has now become open season on their menfolk by Law Enforcers.
    I don’t see Clinton offering much more than ‘hope’, which is free to give and take and crushable – as Obama has shown.
    I think they’re all all about the base-line.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    I don’t see Clinton offering much more than ‘hope’, which is free to give and take and crushable – as Obama has shown.
    I think they’re all all about the base-line.

    True dat (flashback image by Danny Hellman).

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    RIP Stella Bella Boo

    wolf flow
    gotta bone
    gonna go and go
    got dog-weary
    doggone it
    dog gone
    doggedly
    gone upnorth
    serious dog star
    Stella
    Stella!!
    Sirius Dog Star
    stellar…
    bright
    every night
    at the heels
    of Orion
    look up
    look up
    hunt away


    apologies for the humble
    and inadequate doggerel
    offered to leaven your loss…
    and pass on a path forward.

    Stella was my mum’s name , too

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    bugger #sad

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    It's about role models. Also about your group. I think it is hard for those of us who are not Black Americans to appreciate what Obama has represented. Even if you do not like her or her politics, Hillary Clinton is claiming a space that women have previously been denied. That message is very important. It is also why she is facing such sexist attacks.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3227 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    I think it is hard for those of us who are not Black Americans to appreciate what Obama has represented.

    I had some idea at the time. So moved.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    does the US even have any women on their banknotes?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Yes. For those who Know her, RIP Stella Bella Boo

    Sorrow and commiserations, Sofie.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

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