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Field Theory: The Old Marquee Scam

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  • Yamis,

    I definately think that there should be some allowance for players developed by the club. To be fair though even though there isn't most clubs do do a heck of a lot to bring through young guys because if they don't they will miss out on all the best young talent and be stuck with cast-offs.

    I'm not sure how they would do it though. Maybe something along the lines of saying that for each locally developed player the club can go $50,000 over the cap. But there would have to be strict rules as to what locally developed means.

    It would certainly be a massive incentive to a) invest in local players and b) for loyalty from local players as their club would earn more and by connection they themselves would be likely to earn more.

    I think one of the major sticking points though is that some teams have strong local comps they can sniff through each week while others don't like Melbourne for example who would be greatly disadvantaged by only having a new, weakish league comp in Melbourne. These club comps essentially have nothing to do with the clubs.

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    And the decline of NZ rugby continues at an alarming rate... Our Super teams teams are so poorly coached compared to the top Aussie and South African teams one scarcely knows where to begin in recounting our failures... No wonder the All Blacks start so slowly these days, they are coming from shambolic coaching environments.

    Where is the accountability at the mangement level of the game for this coaching disaster??

    What have Mitchell, Gatland and Deans got in common? Answer: They are all better coaches than the boozos running the Hurricanes, Highlanders (a bloody Australian, for God's sake!), Blues and Chiefs. We produce plenty of players, but none seem to be kicking on. Why not? What role in this non-performance does Neil Sorenson (head of professional development at the NZRFU) and the Super Coaches play? How is Sorenson's performance measured? We all know that Colin Cooper hasn't produced a decent result (dispite having arguably the most talented pool of players in New Zealand to pick from) for years, why is it he has been allowed to linger on until a time of his choosing to depart? Who is to blame for the failure of N.Z. rugby to produce a single new genuine star in the two-three seasons?

    What would Alex Furguson make of it all?

    Who should be held responsible for New Zealand now having precisely one good, international quality coach left in the country?
    Who shall replace Graheme Henry post 2011? Everyone knows Steve Hansen is a poor international coach, yet it seems that the medicocre "muggins turn" culture pervading the NZRFU will probably see him get the nod as AB coach in 2011.

    Where is the NZRFU's coaching development?

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2217 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Wage caps?. Bloody Socialism I tell you, they'll be asking for sport to be amateur next.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    You'd be surprised how many top competitions have salary caps Steve.

    Super 14, ANZC, NFL, NBA, and IPL are a few.

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    Shit, apologies for the mistake.

    I just called the ANZC a "top competition".

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Super rugby doesn't have a salary cap. Australia has limits on who much players can be paid (about $150K), with some exceptions (more for Wallaby players, plus each union has a 2 player marquee exemption), and I presume the NZRFU contracting of all NZ players provides some of the effects of a salary cap.

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  • Steve Barnes,

    It must be written somewhere that Rugby League must be tougher, badder and generally worse than all other sports.

    It's a working class sport, as opposed to "Proper Rugby" as played by the best public schools in England. That is why it has a salary cap, we don't want the blighters getting above their station, what what?

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    It's a working class sport, as opposed to "Proper Rugby" as played by the best public schools in England. That is why it has a salary cap, we don't want the blighters getting above their station, what what?

    Well, it was of course professional for many decades before proper rugby players were allowed to be paid a cent.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Well of course, a gentleman would not compete for money, it is theirs by birthright.
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    There isn't a salary cap per se in the Super 14 in terms of how much each team can spend but each NZ team is owned by the NZRU, and players are paid according to what level they get up to, ie ABs, or just Super 14 team.

    So for all intents and purposes there are fairly well defined limits they can be paid. There is no free market they can test themselves on by declaring themselves off contract with the Blues and looking for a big offer from the Hurricanes and Chiefs who get into a bidding war.

    At the end of the day every player in the comp has to talk to the same people who tell them what they are worth and it's like it or lump it, or go play in Japan, France or whereever.

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Naly D,

    Highlanders (a bloody Australian, for God's sake!)

    What? Glenn Moore was born in Takapuna.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2008 • 307 posts Report Reply

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