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  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to SteveH,

    Would you also accept his opinions on say neurology as relevant?

    I am comfortable with his ability to read all of the relevant scientific papers and come to an informed opinion.It is really not so difficultonce one has mastered the terminology because science is largely an exercise in logic.

    Taking the simple statement:" there has been significant global warming since 1998" , then disproving the null hypothesis should be a relatively simple matter if it is acceptable( as it seems to be here) to advance by argumentum ad vericundiam.

    But which authority in 2012 made the above statement ? A search last night failed to turn up a single example, even from the IPCC. Puzzling.

    Farmer Green is familiar with skeptical science.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 778 posts Report

  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to andin,

    Thank you for that. I won’t. Anyway enough apostasy already.
    Back to the third report of the LWF.

    Farmer Green notes the calls for national standards for water, expressed by several of the participants here.
    The LWF , while agreeing that there must be a national bottom line, believes that all water quality solutions should be tailored to individual catchments.
    In effect this may well mean that the only waterways which will fail to meet the bottomline are the ephemeral water bodies within urban environments. If you disagree , go and take a look at one.
    The Federated Farmers representative is quoted in the farming press thusly:-
    “We know the way we farm will need to change” .
    So it may be David Carter who is slightly out of step here. The differing modelling results from Horizons and Landcare Research have yet to be reconciled
    But he(FF rep.) took issue with some regional councils rushing to set limits:-
    “This fails to inform or involve the community in what will affect jobs, a community’s standard of living, or for that matter its makeup”

    Yes folks, there are still some communities in the rural environment in spite of the amalgamations and closures of the last several decades. Remember Taranaki and the Waikato when there was a village every 15 -20 miles, complete with school, dairy factory , bakery , butchery, IGA _AND_ 4 Square, two or three churches, a garage or two , a transport company. . . no you probably don’t remember . . . they all vanished progressively from 1965 onwards as the dairy factories closed.

    Irrigation NZ believes that resource consents need to be for much longer periods, if we are to move to large storage dams as the primary water source(rather than rivers , bores and wells), while agreeing that “consents need to adapt in a timely manner to environmental limit changes”.
    It looks all good . Will the political parties buy in? Surely we could have a cross-party consensus on this. The LWF managed to achieve one.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 778 posts Report

  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to Sacha,

    That is very gracious of you .
    Mea culpa , mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
    However I insist on keeping an open mind about it in the belief (sic) that science will prevail.
    I guess it’s what one might call imperfect contrition. Can you ever forgive me?

    Excommunication does seem a bit harsh :-)
    Perhaps Farmer Green could be granted an indulgence for consistency. It would have made no sense to have spent one's life setting the family farm up for the next ten generations while secretly holding the belief(sic) that hellfire was imminent.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 778 posts Report

  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Sorry, that was a reference to the fact that we only have 30 years of satellite data, which is considered very reliable.
    There is the thing about our short records. The climate rolls in a 60 year cycle where temperatures warm for 30 years then cool for thirty years, so getting 27 years of above average temperatures would be — not unusual.

    I'll leave it there. Clearly some minds are closed.
    But you never know who is reading these things. There remains the possibility that there are open enquiring minds out there.
    Absolute certainty is for the superstition brigade.

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  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to Russell Brown,

    You're welcome.

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  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    I do despair.

    Can I recommend a book?
    Creed For the Third Millenium

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  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Giardiasis showed little seasonality. The highest rates were among children 0–9 years old, those 30–39 years old, Europeans, and those living in low deprivation areas. Notification rates were slightly higher in rural areas. The correlation between giardiasis and farm animal density was NOT significant at the TA level.

    Conclusions :
    The public health importance of giardiasis to New Zealand mainly comes from its relatively high rates in this country. The distribution of cases is consistent with largely anthroponotic (human) reservoirs, with a relatively SMALL contribution from zoonotic sources in rural environments and a modest contribution from overseas travel. Prevention efforts could include continuing efforts to improve hand washing, nappy handling, and other hygiene measures and travel health advice relating to enteric infections.

    The NZ Medical Journal.

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  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy,

    What's the riparian environment like between Palmerston North and the estuary?


    The Manawatu river is now cut off from nearly all of the wetlands that it occupied in earlier times. So below P.N city there is little amelioration.
    Farmer Green doesn't have major concerns about the Manawatu, (compared to say, the Piako, Waitoa or Waihou rivers) and expects that recent moves by Horizons (One Plan) will produce steady improvement.
    Farmer Green would love to see an end to the sewage outfalls at Norsewood, Dannevirke, Pahiatua, Ashhurst and P.N. but the main enrichment is still nitrate from nutrient overload on soils caused by high stocking rates.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 778 posts Report

  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to Stewart,

    Hmmm, hang- over from the years of Latin and French?

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 778 posts Report

  • Hard News: Fact and fantasy, in reply to Sacha,

    I wouldn't have mentioned it except that Russell asked : it was just courtesy. Time will tell and adaptation is what farmers do every day/season/year/ climate cycle.
    You'll have to forgive my equanimity.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 778 posts Report

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