Posts by Cecelia

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  • Southerly: Primary School for Beginners,

    I remember horror days too. The 50s! School was a cruel place. Teachers were all powerful and bullying ignored. Corporal punishment was rife although as a girl I was only stung with a ruler on the legs. Barbaric, though.

    Relatively recently I was shunned by a local gym owner because he noticed I was a teacher and regaled me with his views about corporal punishment. "Bring back the cane, blah, blah, blah." After I demurred - politely but strongly - he was quite shocked and never talked to me again!

    Mind you, as a teacher in a secondary school I've been very irascible at times - they started it! - it's hard to be "firm but pleasant" all the time. I believe that even in primary schools there are some very difficult situations which would try the patience of a saint or as my father would say "make a parson swear".

    I can assure you that we are programmed these days to build good relationships with students and usually it works.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Southerly: Wedding Bells,

    Married in 70s - white weddings a sham - a throwback to some pre-feminist era - only to have one's children organise huge affairs in the 2000's.

    It's a mystery.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Hard News: Beijing: Ignoring it is not…,

    Just watched Media 7 on Sensing Murder. What I can't fathom is how an - I assume intelligent - person like Carol du Chateau could endorse the programme in any way, shape or form. She and the producer seemed to think that it was okay because it brought media attention to unsolved murders. They failed to address the question of whether the psychics were more than just a gimmick.

    And I think it's crappier crap than the other crap we get on TV. Do my taxes go on that?????? I want to scream.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    Cecelia, it's just your computer.You can always ignore bits if you like:-)

    i know I know but well they are still human voices comin' out of the ether.And I don't think you should have to armour yourself because putting forward a point.

    And I MUST leave this alone now and do something healthier with my dwindling brain cells - could you call this a veitchhunt, has someone already used that awful pun and does the 43 page discussion have an element of this? I mean not in the sense of getting moral panic and mass hysteria but in the sense of mass summat, mob moral outrage and .. oh I don't know.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    The little bit of the bigger picture that tigger helps fill in is that some people are always grasping at little details to excuse the inexcusable.

    Its not the bigger picture ................. its muddying the waters

    I haven't seen anyone excusing the inexcusable. I think everyone has said that what Veitch did - as the picture emerged - was despicable and shocking and that Holmes (Qantas Award Winning Columnist of the Year)is the one who has the skewed values.

    It's as if there are some people who are more in the know about issues surrounding domestic violence - there was a really poignant post to the Herald BTW - but that doesn't mean that other people who are less aware of the issues can't raise valid questions about this media-related case. Or have slightly different ways of looking at it while all the time wondering at the "moral crisis" (is that what HC said?) which has been made manifest in Veitch himself and in TVNZ.

    I think this is a great forum with brilliant contributors but it's also very intimidating for people who want to air their views and question what's going on in NZ without getting their heads bitten off because they might not be on the same wave length as the majority.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    I've been tramping in the Pureora Forest and the tuis were making a heck of a racket. The whirr of wings, the chortles, squawks, chimes and whistles ... bit like PA really.

    And what's trolling and if it's what I think it is I'm puzzled. I thought Robbery was adding a different note of some value and while Stephens' point is very clever, I don't quite see it as unchallengeable.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    Hey man, don't be so judgemental! We've all been there!... oh.

    Not fair - we didn't know this - and if it's true it paints such a nasty picture that I cannot understand why Paul Holmes - self-obsessed but not I thought a bad guy - would defend him and his right to fight for his "livelihood".

    We're now getting into the homicidal territory - she could so easily have been killed. If this really happened, how could her parents not have gone straight to the police?

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Southerly: A Trip to Canberra with Alan Bollard,

    Was put off it by ref to bollard - didn't open it for a few days and then laughed so much that I nearly did myself a mischief. Don't really get it, but.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    Sacha -back to the media aspect of this issue - can't remember who let slip the info on the former partner's demand for $100,000 to 170,000. In the same story was a reference to her wealthy new husband and their $1.8 mil property. As a teacher earning a basic $60 thou and working all hours god sends even in the hols, i sort of go into a Rosemary McLeod anti-Auckland type attitude!

    Is it possible that the DomPost - if they did drip feed this info - having exposed the dirt on Veitch - are now trying to paint his victim in a less than favourable light in order to create a shock horror response in readers - or indeed any emotive repsonse????????

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    Sacha, you mean that TV used "lashed out" as a euphemism for kicking his partner and that subsequent commentators have picked it up and used it too - perhaps because it's easier for all of us to use??? So TV's PR people have sort of planted this in our heads?

    Sorry to pick your brains but I've sort of got to teach news packaging for a class I'm looking after next week and I want to make them tease out the "truth" that lies behind the selection and packaging of news.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report

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