Posts by Joe Wylie

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

    I don't have meticulous research. I worked for Howard Broad in the 1990s. I'm related to his ex-boss.

    And as you're prepared to post that under your own name, respect for that.
    I'm certainly not equating Peter Ellis's having been exonerated in the court of public opinion with Iti's case. The accounts by those who claim to know Iti are far too polarised to form any prejudgement. What I'll reiterate, at the risk of repeating myself, is that I believe that Hood's publicly-stated misgivings about Broad are well-founded, in light of his having failed to distance himself from those disastrous aspects of the Ellis case in which he was involved.

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

    Howard Broad is an intelligent, educated police officer. People who have worked with him will tell you that he's very progressive on issues of Maori sovereignty and police working with Maori in the community.

    Back that up with a fraction of the meticulous research and dispassionately persuasive writing that Lynley Hood has displayed and you might have a case.

    Once the police have made theirs hopefully we'll have a clearer outcome re. Iti et.al. than is the case for Peter Ellis. As Hood has said, it's pretty much down to a case of "chuck Peter Ellis in the village pond and see whether he sinks or floats."
    http://www.critic.co.nz/archive?type_code=a&page=46&archive_id=1200

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

    Honestly, the impulse certain people have for turning demonstrations into their own personal carnival and performance art venue is so counter-productive. How can you expect to be taken seriously when your protest looks like a 3rd rate circus procession?

    They do it because they can. After his immersion in the cosmopolitan ways of Central Europe, even Ross Meurant would seem to believe that batoning the clowns back in '81 was a bad idea.

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  • Speaker: Not quite what you may think,

    That's the next post . .

    Much anticipated. Thanks a lot Graeme & PA.

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

    But what do you mean by "weak government"? What do you want the government to do in this case?

    We seem to have forgotten that government might have some role in promoting social cohesion. Forgive my naivety, but I'd assumed that this was something that MMP was supposed to foster, and that the rank divisiveness of the Muldoon years would become a distant memory.

    Right now we have the most potentially divisive situation since 1981, with no indication of when justice will be done, and the government legally distanced from so much as commenting on events.

    Key has inadvertently revealed that the SIS is involved. Why should we trust the people who got it so wrong with Zaoui? The implications of the latest police action, presumably based on SIS-supplied info, are vastly more serious.

    Outside of the media and the legal profession this looks more bizarre with each passing day that we're kept in the dark. Trickled-down assurances by privileged insiders as to whether or not the police have a case are a poor substitite for a statement from the PM, or at least a relevant minister. Instead of a host of expert opinions as to why the government can do nothing, it might serve to restore a little faith to have a public statement of some substance from Clark. Once upon a time she gave the impression of having the political imagination to deal with crises.

    Re. IdiotSavant's opiniion of the Terrorism Suppression act - with all due respect to I/S, (s)he's an anonymous blogger. I think that pretty much sums up the mushroom scenario we're in.

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

    . . . we depend on a steady flow of police leaks . . .

    - plus ongoing spin from the police themselves, some of which is starting to sound downright intimidatory, e.g. Police Association president Greg O'Connor's sneering at the inhabitants of 'leafy suburbs', and his claim that 'criminals didn't respect the sanctity of school buses.' While I realise he's trying to fudge the issue with a reference to an incident from four years ago where gang members supposedly sought to evade police by sheltering in a kohanga reo bus, the issue is about people who haven't yet been found guilty, i.e. declared to be criminals.

    Draconian laws, weak government.

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

    Wasn't there a bit of dodgy dealings of an investigating cop getting his leg over one of the mums of one of the kiddies in the case?

    If you don't have access to Lynlley Hood's excellent A City Possessed, an NZ-only Google search for "Colin Eade""Peter Ellis" should prove most enlightening.

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

    Ooops - Howard, not Harold Broad.
    Reasonable doubts on the basis of past performance is one thing, getting his name wrong is a clear my bad.

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

    I'd forgotten that Broad was the wingnut who saw demons at work in the Christchurch Creche.

    Not sure whether Broad ever expressed anything quite so OTT in relation to the Ellis case - Chief Inspector Brian Pearce, the officer later in overall charge of the police case. "claimed on the television current affairs show Holmes (TV One) June 1992 that the Civic childcare centre case was evidence society was reaping the fruits of mocking morals campaigner Patricia Bartlett, conservative politician John Banks and God (McLoughlin 1996)."
    http://www.homepages.paradise.net.nz/r.christie/1.html

    "the officer in charge [of the Ellis investigation] was Detective Sergeant Bob Hardie of Christchurch who led a team of 15 detectives. In turn, Bob Hardie was supervised by Detective Inspector Brian Pearce." As a detective inspector Harold Broad was part of the team.
    http://www.crime.co.nz/c-files.asp?ID=87

    "With Howard Broad’s appointment as the country’s top police officer, there is a real risk that ongoing damage caused to the fabric of New Zealand society by sex abuse hysteria and false allegations will continue unabated."
    Lynley Hood. author of A City Possessed.
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0604/S00041.htm

    As long as we're in the dark, I think we're entitled to wonder why a history of credulity regarding false sex allegations shouldn't br taken into account when Broad talks about the reality of domestic terrorism.

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  • Hard News: Te Qaeda and the God Squad,

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    Is the theory now that the revolution will come by mailorder?

    If you told me that the revolution was listed on TradeMe I'd follow the link.

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