Posts by Craig Ranapia
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Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Sacha,
Yeah cos she was renowned for behaving just like those guys.
Just as Destiny Church is notorious for systematic and well-documented harassment, intimidation and violence against opposition political parties, unionists and Jewish-owned businesses? They torched any synagogues lately? And while Brian The Bish may have delusions of grandeur, I don't think he's throwing a putsch down the local boozer any time soon.
there’s your problem
What's my problem -- that I can have profound disdain for the Destiny Church without trotting out the cheap bullshitty Nazi analogies? It's a problem I can live with.
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Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to nzlemming,
Sometimes, making these comparisons is not dog-whistling but someone expressing how it genuinely made them feel. And I shared the feeling.
For the second time in 24 hours, I think I’ll just have to say “agree to disagree” and move on. But can I make one observation without anyone pulling out the ‘Craigbot’ bullshit?
For all I know, Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa still sincerely feels that criticism of the Catholic Church’s handling of clerical abuse is equivalent to Nazi persecution of the Jews. It was still a repugnant thing to say at any time, but down right troll-ish in a sermon in the presence of the fucking Pope on Good Friday.
As I said, Destiny is quite bad enough without reaching for the lazy Nazi analogy playbook. And I’ve explained my issues with that – or right-wingers like Farrar and WhaleOily comparing Helen Clark to Hitler, Stalin or Robert Mugabe (!) to be even-handed – at length elsewhere.
YMMV and IMHO, of course.
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Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Kumara Republic,
Georgina Beyer wasn’t Godwinning when she likened the original march to a ‘Nuremburg rally’.
Oh, God, yes she was. I’m sure we thrashed this dead horse into a steaming pile of fresh jellymeat at the time, but if you’re really going to equate citizens of a democracy (however vile) holding a lawful and peaceful march with a fascist jamboree… Well, I’m not so sure I like the dog being whistled for – not least because there’s more than enough to pin Density for without going anywhere near that line.
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Being able to state a clear position on humans rights and sexuality need not mean slagging off your hosts.
Quite. When I was involved in Young Nats policy conferences we invited quite a few speakers precisely because they'd have a *cough* not entirely friendly POV -- including Andrew Little, one year. He was perfectly civil, and I hope he felt it was mutual.
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Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Tom Semmens,
You're going to have to tease out that equivalence there, Sanctuary...
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Up Front: Respectably-Dressed Sensible…, in reply to Russell Brown,
I was just concerned that a good and productive discussion was not going to be helped.
Well, I'll quite happily withdraw from the discussion if I'm being destructive -- and no, folks, that's not a flounce. I've got a piece to re-write from scratch in an hour, because I'm increasingly uncomfortable doing my planned critique of Henry's 60 Minutes profile for PAR.
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Up Front: Respectably-Dressed Sensible…, in reply to Martin Lindberg,
Could we please have a local Godwin’s law where you lose when Paul Henry or Michael Laws are invoked as the Moby Dicks (possible pun) of New Zealand.
I'll quite happily not heap that insult upon the injury whales already have to endure. Anyway, where that dim-witted duo are concerned a more appropriate Melville novel would be The Confidence-Man: His Masquerade
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I do have serious misgivings about the careless use of the phrase “rape culture”, and I thought yours was careless.
Well, that’s your call. I did have a rather precise point to make which you made it crystal clear would be deleted on sight.
I’ll repeat something Emma said at the top of this thread, and throw out a modest proposal I’d like you to read while taking a very deep breath:
. I’d like to see ONE discussion where people talk about what they – and everyone else – can do about rape prevention.
Perhaps, just perhaps, rapists won’t rape when we all live in a media culture where men like Henry and Michael Laws aren’t enabled – and rewarded – for derogating women like Stephanie Mills who don’t conform to their heterosexual white middle class cis-male privileged idea of how “real” women look, think and act. (And let’s remember what cooked Henry’s hash at TVNZ – it wasn’t his sexism and homophobia, but racism directed at the Governor-General and a senior Indian politician with a funny name.)
I grant you, “rape culture” is an incredibly confronting concept – and it’s even controversial among feminists for all kinds of reasons. I’ve never had sex with a woman, let alone raped anyone. But I have perpetuated a “rape culture” by making incredibly offensive comments about women, and even truculently refusing to own my own privilege and arseholism, (“Gee, get a sense of humour” sound familiar? Ugh…)
I’m so grateful for women like Emma, Megan, Deborah, Tracey Mac and Jackie who’ve just challenged me to be better – and made the love damn tough. I’m grateful to you for deciding Public Address was going to be a femme-safe corner of the net. That didn’t just happen by magic. This community had to decide to make it that way.
I’d sure like to embed them at 60 Minutes and Random House after watching that Henry advertorial because there’s a hell of a lot of not getting it going down at Paul's house.
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<i>I further suspect that you would not say the same about John Key, who has had his own moments this year, not least in the company of Tony Veitch. Please, stop it.</i>
Good night, Russell. Going to bed before I hit enter instead of delete and live to regret it.
I’m going to ask two things of you though, and would like you to accept they’re made in good faith:
1) If you sincerely think I’ve defamed Henry, or exposed you to legal risk in any way, shape or form please delete the offending comment.
2) When you’ve done that, please delete the comment a reasonable person could read as a claim I’ve called anyone a rapist here. I don’t like being exposed to potential defamation actions any more than you do.
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Hard News: Bishop Brian: It's worse than…, in reply to Damian Christie,
You know, Damien, I damn hope that John Key would refuse to set foot in Auckland Cathedral if the Bishop was still preaching the blood libel against the Jews. Then again, he's probably be a spineless twat as per usual...
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