Posts by Craig Ranapia
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,
My point was that telling a guy he’s ‘mansplaining’ is analogous to telling a women she’s ‘being hysterical.’
I hereby promise to retire the term and use the non-gendered "condescending ass-bag" instead.
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to DCBCauchi,
If he’d done that, sure. If he did, it was in one clumsily worded phrase out of a several paragraph post.
Well, yeah… but no. The irony is that the occasion for this whole discussion was a pretty solid feature in North & South written by a female journo who’s hardly a tool of the misogynistic medical-industrial complex spectacularly ill-served by a dodgy cover image and needlessly provocative coverline. (Shall we take the “IMNSHO and YMMV” for all the above as read?)
Ross isn't some evil, Kiwibogian/Sub-Standard troll, otherwise I'd probably not care about his comment because I just wouldn't expect any better. But, yeah, I can tell you from experience when you make a flat out piss-poor argument -- or ruin a potentially useful one by being tone-deaf, crass or needlessly in your face -- there's going to be a reaction. Your ego can come away a little bruised, but you might just also learn a thing or two.
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,
REDACTED: Touches on stuff Russell has asked, nicely, to be moved on from. Will press F5 and review more frequently in future.
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to B Jones,
On the other side, natural birth advocates often take exception to women being offered epidurals during labour, calling this pressuring women – one book I read instructs readers to say “no thank you” to all sorts of standard treatments/checks.
And that's cool because, you know, there's a pretty clear ethical line about drugging people against their will. OTOH, remember when there was a rash of media stories about C-sections being the trendy choice for women "too posh to push"? I can totally get why some women I know felt epically concern trolled and patronised over a pretty fraking serious surgical intervention.
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Susan:
Infinity minus one non-patronising points for all that. You've really got that good retail service is a long game - I might not max out the overdraft immediately, but I will be a PR Terminator for stores, restaurants etc. that don't treat me like a walking turd. Clerks who know their market and stock - also an epic win.
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to Ross Mason,
Manslashing or whatever the phrase was included. It is never meant to be. I have found you have to be very careful with your language here because of the between the lines reading.
Well, yes – and one really nice thing about Public Address System is that it’s a place where women can feel safe to talk frankly about tough stuff without feeling like they’re going to be told to calm their fevered ladybrains, focus on “real” issues and come back when their periods are over.
And, yeah, I've had to take one or two hard (and well-deserved) raps over the knuckles until I got the difference between really listening to others and just waiting for my turn to speak. It's not a bad thing that PAS has helped me be more sensitive and mindful how I talk about, and to, women; to think about a lot of things well outside my experience and comfort zones. (And I hope I've repaid the courtesy in some small way.)
Russell (and everyone else around here) should be proud that I know women who’ve said to me that PA is a good place to be when too much of the domestic interwebz just isn’t; that didn’t just happen, this community decided not to be a quantum singularity of sexist suckage.
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to JackElder,
start to sound a bit like “you should take up running, it worked wonders for me and thus will work fine for everyone.”
And being a paraplegic is all in your head, no less. :)
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to Deborah,
Damn straight, all other things being equal, formula is second best. But it’s second best, not bloody poison. In a first world country, where our parents are literate, and our access to potable water excellent, there is NOTHING WRONG WITH FORMULA.
Whereas there's a lot wrong with guilt-tripping women who don't follow the baby script because they're fucking morons brainwashed by Big Formula or something. You know Ross, I've got a hobby horse of my own in this race because I know women whose experience of pregnancy (and multiple miscarriages in one case) was traumatic enough without being treated like idiots or monsters.
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to Danielle,
Could we perhaps be ‘supportive and encouraging’ to mothers rather than ‘accusatory and patronising’? You catch more bees with honey, and all that jazz.’.
Also, the idea that childbirth causes severe ladybrain damage that prevents all rational thought and agency is soooo last millennium. Isn't it?
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Hard News: Complaint and culture, in reply to Sacha,
So how would you explain what has changed?
Empirically, I don't know if the media has ever been that good at owning their mistakes without a lawyer twisting their arms. What may well have changed is, for better and worse, we live in a culture where people are more sophisticated (and adversarial) in their relationships with media and the old model of the handful of outlets serving as "gatekeepers" is breaking down. Or something.
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