Posts by Jolisa
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[Secretly triumphant that we are back to discussing novels!]
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Hard News: Limping Onwards, in reply to Megan Clayton,
I take the view that someone working in a field far removed from their original studies is not a sign of the failure of that discipline’s usefulness; it’s a sign of success.
Nothing to add to this; it's brilliant.
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... which is to say, I wouldn't dare be so presumptuous.
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Hard News: Limping Onwards, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,
In my defence, it means I speak with some authority.
In the same way that I can speak with authority about physics & geography, yes it does.
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blah blah subsidising the children of the privileged to study Roland Barthes etc etc
I would love to see Danyl's undergrad transcript about now.
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Hard News: Limping Onwards, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,
What are you talking about?
What I am talking about is that you seem to be arguing that "training doctors, engineers, research scientists" consists of teaching them nothing but medicine, engineering, and research science.
And that's a bit stupid, to put it bluntly.
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Hard News: Limping Onwards, in reply to Megan Wegan,
It’s also, from a media perspective, a pretty short list.
Was hoping for some collective help compiling the list, hence the ellipses...
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Hard News: Limping Onwards, in reply to Sacha,
It would be interesting to see how many New Zealanders have even heard of those people, let alone can tell you what field of knowledge they bring to the conversation.
It would, I grant you. But we could do exactly the same test with a list of Very Important Doctors, Engineers, and Research Scientists, and come up equally blank.
What I mean is, we can benefit from any given intellectual conversation (science, arts, whatever) without knowing the names or carrying all the footnotes in our head all the time.
ETA: yay for Jolisa who’s come up with a couple of live ones!
...Russell Brown, Giovanni Tiso...
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Hard News: Limping Onwards, in reply to Russell Brown,
Why the laughter? We do have some tradition there.
Keith Sinclair, Bill Pearson, Michael King, Fairburn, Sutch. for a start.
... Te Rangi Hîroa, Elsie Locke, Ranginui Walker, Marilyn Waring, Denis Dutton, Michael King, Jane Kelsey ...
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Hard News: Limping Onwards, in reply to Danyl Mclauchlan,
Perhaps it helps if you bear in mind the opportunity cost: ie each year paying someone to study Lacan, or contemplate Middlemarch
I'd want my money back too, if my BA consisted entirely of Lacan and Middlemarch. Happily, it also included linguistics, two languages, a spot of physics, and some geography. As it happens, I've used next to none of the science in my professional work, and pretty much all of the humanities. Should I retroactively pay for those useless science classes, by your argument?
... is a sum of money that don’t go into health and welfare, or into training doctors, engineers, research scientists (cough) etc.
I'll tell my friend the oncologist that you think he should have skipped the BA in English & Psych. He'll enjoy that. And I know an astrophysicist with most of a BA in philosophy who is currently chortling at your argument.