Hard News: Women and their representations
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Lilith __, in reply to
feeding womens’ hate of, and disconnection from, their own bodies.
I think we also have to mention photo retouching. The beautiful, flawless faces we see in advertising aren't even achievable by the models! Take a look at this (mouseover for original photo).
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Hilary Stace, in reply to
The first New Zealand Fat Studies conference is being held at Massey Wellington in July. I think this is a subject that will hear more about as people (mainly women) reclaim it as an academic discipline rather as something shameful. One of the organisers I see has the best name - Cat Pause.
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Deborah, in reply to
It's Cat Pausé (pronounced paus-eh), which is still incredibly cool. As is Cat! Her blog is here: Friend of Marilyn, and she has a tumblr too, also called Friend of Marilyn.
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JacksonP, in reply to
This is why I’d rather have a long list: because high achievement isn’t some freakish thing. All kids should be aspiring to it.
I'm enjoying the thought process. And I should repeat it with our three daughters. We have a lot to aspire to in this country, if we stop and think about it for at least a long lunch time.
Jolisa will complete Shirley’s unfinished memoir one day …
That would be a good read.
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Jackie Clark, in reply to
Justement. That's how pervasive it is,
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Jackie Clark, in reply to
A remarkable woman.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
This isn’t news to any woman. The words “weight loss” are so ingrained in our culture. Every one talks about losing weight, and even when women are strong feminists, fantastic mothers, admirable employers/ees – yes, they still talk about the parts of their bodies they hate.
Quite – and I really got my nose rubbed in it watching the premiere of Golden on Sunday night. I should be really jazzed about a prime time comedy created and written by women, right? Well… I would be if the first episode wasn’t a running mean-spirited fat gag – with some awkward dick jokes for equal opportunity whateverness.
To be fair, it might just be going for the same “broad as the side of a barn” spot as Kath ‘n’ Kim which just leaves me unmoved. But part of me also says “FFS, it’s 2012. Aren’t we supposed to be a bit beyond finding women who don’t look like emaciated stick insects intrinsically laughable?” Perhaps I'm missing something, and would welcome other points of view.
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Jackie Clark, in reply to
I was going to watch it. And then for that very reason, I decided not to. I agree with you entirely that it seems to be "different year, same shit". No, thanks.
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Lilith __, in reply to
OK I been unable to stop myself making some lists. Once you get going it's hard to keep to 10!
here are the NZ women writers I think have to be on the influential list (in no particular order):
Robyn Hyde
Keri Hulme
Janet Frame
Ruth Park
Lynley Dodd
Margaret Mahy
Lauris Edmond
Fiona Farrell
Patricia Grace
Renee
Joy Cowley
Barbara Ewing
Elsie Locke
Katherine Mansfield
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Jackie Clark, in reply to
+1 to the power of 1 million
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Here’s my list of influential NZ women artists*, also in no particular order (I aimed for 10 but missed)
Eileen Mayo
Frances Hodgkins
Rita Angus
Gretchen Albrecht
Ria Bancroft
Robyn Kahukiwa
et al
Robyn White
Olivia Spencer Bower
Louise Henderson
Denise Copland
Joanna Braithwaite
Doris Lusk*influential is kind of hard to judge for the younger artists...this list is way incomplete...
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And a bunch of influential actresses:
Elizabeth Moody
Robyn Malcolm
Jennifer Ward-Lealand
Lucy Lawless
Keisha Castle-Hughes
Anna Paquin
Ilona Rogers
Danielle Cormack
Annie Whittle
Miranda Harcourt
Greer Robson
Kerry Fox
Lisa Chappell
Madeline Sami
Tandi Wright -
If some of yous want to attack the other lists I'm sure we could get to 100ish easy!
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This is addictive.
Influential photographers:
Ans Westra
Marti Friedlander
Gil Hanly
Christine Webster
Margaret Dawson
Fiona Pardington
Megan Jenkinson
Tui de Royum…
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Jolisa, in reply to
You left out the greatest of them all: the amazing Shirley Maddock, who produced the first NZ TV documentaries --- and made the bloody tea.
And she wasn't even allowed to use the term "producer", since in those days, women didn't "produce"! So her earliest programmes were credited along these lines: "devised, arranged, written and directed by Shirley Maddock."
Also: she's Jolisa's late mother-in-law. Jolisa will complete Shirley's unfinished memoir one day .
You're right. It's long overdue. I'll get right onto it.
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Lilith __, in reply to
women didn’t “produce”
I’m told that women in charge of continuity in movies (now often credited as Script Supervisors) were formerly known as Script Girls .
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Sacha, in reply to
Perhaps I'm missing something
No, it was utter crud. Created by its star, it seems.
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Story about body image in 'Girls' tv show.
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I would include my Mum, and your Mum along with "Katherine Mansfield" and "Rita Angus" and my daughter is a dead cert for a future contender.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
The naturalness of the girls on Girls makes the women of Sex and the City look like drag queens.
Dear Sarah Macdonald: Fuck you very much. Please try being part of the solution instead of perpetuating the problem where women who don’t meet a certain idea of ‘appropriate’ are kinda, sorta not-quite women at all. (Might also want to do a literature search on "mannish women" as a sexist/misogynist putdown.)
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Hilary Stace, in reply to
Julia Brooke-White. Typically of women, she's not that good at self-promotion - but those in the know know. Particularly wonderful craft photography.
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JacksonP, in reply to
NZ women artists
I'd add to the artists Seraphine Pick and Alexis Hunter, who should probably be on both the Artist and Photographer lists.
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Oh people, I just have to share this: Jezebel on Cosmo's 44 most ridiculous sex tips for ladies.
I thought I had regained my composure but then I got to the comments and became utterly helpless with laughter.
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When the Cosmo sex tips things was posted on Metafilter, someone contributed this comment on the perfect storm of women's mag headlines which seems fairly appropriate to this discussion.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
When the Cosmo sex tips things was posted on Metafilter, someone contributed this comment on the perfect storm of women’s mag headlines which seems fairly appropriate to this discussion.
ANGELINA: TOO SKINNY TO CONCEIVE?
Indeed. I will try and get this in the show.
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