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Hard News: Still crazy after all these years

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  • giovanni tiso,

    I've been surprised how many people have been prepared to dismiss him as the undeserving bad seed

    That. Plus, concerning something that Islander wrote further up

    there are plenty of young people who are in vile environments and DONT take part in a robbery that led to a young man's death.

    I think it's the same mindset that we apply all too often across the board. We all know people who grew up in violent, uncaring environments and yet became very caring adults, just as we all know people who overcame very challenging disabilities to achieve great things. But should we expect this of everyone? And so long as we advocate for equality of opportunity and inclusion, why limit this advocacy to one category - the physically or intellectually disabled - and not another - those who are disabled by the environment in which they grew up?

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Robbie Siataga,

    [Edit:. Removed the link to that vile Dirty Sesh video. Just don't want it playing through my website, sorry. RB]

    fair enough but it is kind of relevent as thats the type of stuff that influences the baileys of this world....perhaps thats worthy of a thread/media 7 spot in itself ?...media (self) censorship ?

    BTW does NZoA require individual video treatment synopsis by reputable production companies before approving funding...yet ?

    (I'm not suggesting he is ASD, at all, but I do think about the way our younger boy could have developed in less fortunate circumstances.)

    I'm reminded of Liam Ashley and how that turned out when his parents though it was a good idea to educate him first hand on prison...wasn't he ASD ?

    http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2006/11/more-bullshit-in-liam-ashley-case.html#c116244047166602500

    Since Feb 2010 • 259 posts Report

  • philipmatthews,

    I'm reminded of Liam Ashley and how that turned out when his parents though it was a good idea to educate him first hand on prison...wasn't he ASD ?

    Was ADHD, which sometimes overlaps with ASD.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Please do explain how conventional media is not zero sum - there are hardly unlimited production or distribution resources/channels.

    Because the answer to 'disability issues need more air time' doesn't have to be 'investigation of social disfunction/crime gets less'. There's plenty of crud on TV which could make way for both. TV is only zero sum in its entirety, which you weren't discussing.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Robbie Siataga,

    I also cant help but think of the very real possibility of Bailey, given his 'media star' status, dying violently in jail...and then what ?

    Naturally there'd be some hand wringing, some finger pointing and a whole lotta good copy being made, perhaps even a piece on how contrite the current 'victims' feel.

    but not a damn thing would change. i virtually have no faith in the mainstream media at all now and thats sad.

    there really should be some 'razzie' type media awards for the shoddiest piece of journalism to counter the qantas best of.

    currently i'm tossing between this fit up and Mike McRoberts flitting round post quake Haiti saving babies for the camera...jeez that fucker made me angry just by being there.

    Since Feb 2010 • 259 posts Report

  • Sam F,

    there really should be some 'razzie' type media awards for the shoddiest piece of journalism to counter the qantas best of.

    Ignore me if I've said this before, but you may be interested in these offerings from Radio New Zealand - although they may not be quite polemical enough for your taste, I suspect.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1611 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I'd call it being civilised (in the best possible way- learning from our past, determined to be more compassionate & humane.)
    We do not have a civilised media -in general- in ANZ

    Case in point: the Chch Star's Pegasus Post Community News reporting on an arson at a community workshop making toys for kids (feb 14, 2010)

    Volunteer Heiner Dunker, 67, said one of the organisations given toys was Pillars, which supports youths who have parents in jail.
    "We're probably producing toys for the sort of bugger who lit the fire." he said.

    This said with no proof offered just an obvious personal preconception that helps no-one, the reporter, Cullen Smith, saw fit to leave this non fact in the story, as did all editorial processes above - and this is how it starts... absolutely no respect given to kids already dealing with the social stigma of having a parent in jail - prejudged and dismissed by the "upstanding" of society - that'll help!
    Respect is a two-way street...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    which you weren't discussing

    Please do read what I actually said - there is limited "social issues" coverage just as there are overall systemic limits. They'll hardly shift resource from celeb chef survivor to news and docos unless there is pressure and probably funding carrots. Abundance is a feature of the digital online.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Robbie Siataga,

    Ignore me if I've said this before, but you may be interested in these offerings from Radio New Zealand - although they may not be quite polemical enough for your taste, I suspect.

    hah...yeah nah, its like i'm almost tempted to start a blog called

    'Power to Truth'...where journos/bloggers pieces get the left/right spin taken off them, a sub section called 'The Most Hardest News...EVER!!!' which speaks for itself, 'The Occasional Slag' an opinion piece that bars no holds and an interview section called 'The Buttface'.

    ...but surely something like that exists too,yeah ?

    Since Feb 2010 • 259 posts Report

  • Steve Barnes,

    In other batshit crazy news,
    The level of ignorance is astounding.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    there is limited "social issues" coverage just as there are overall systemic limits.

    If you want to look at the pie that way, OK.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    Show me a different pie - I call that as I see it, not as how I want it to be. I think you have probably formed a pretty good picture of the latter by now.

    Media is both a social construct and a business one, bringing constraints and opportunities. Fortunately for those who want change, we're in the middle of massive disruptive transformation.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Show me a different pie

    The new digital channels make a bigger pie. TVNZ has brought more 'serious' shows to TV.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    And to take that example, TVNZ is about to be restructured by this Government so those new channels may be about all that's left of 'serious' shows about this country and its people. Swings, roundabouts.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    TVNZ is about to be restructured by this Government so those new channels may be about all that's left of 'serious' shows about this country and its people. Swings, roundabouts.

    Well that's a bit silly Sacha. "The pie did get bigger, but it might get smaller in the future so nothing has changed."

    If you wanted more serious shows on TV, the introduction of TVNZ 6 & 7 seemed like a pretty good development to me.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    I agree it's better in that form. I'm not just talking about tv and merely pointing out how contingent that particular improvement may be. Wouldn't you say the tabloidisation of mass print journalism (and most tv) more than makes up for what two new channels can offer? On the other hand, online media may be less monolithic but it sure is plentiful.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

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