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I am looking forward to a future post on welfare accomodation fraud, so that those of you who know so much about housing might all be able to express some thoughts on Fay and Richwhite.
The reason this thread went OT was because what more can be said about FR than hasn't already been said? (yes, the same could be said about state housing, welfare cheats, etc)
Also, some of us were discussing FR on another thread a week ago (prior to this settlement being announced) so are we meant to repeat orselves?
Also, the FR Gaynor link has been posted on this thread twice and if you've read it there's little more to be said. There seems little defence of FR here on PA at least, whereas the OT stuff is being debated.
Otherwise we're just venting?
Yes, it's galling to know that the'yre 'getting away with it' (despite the 20 mill no fault settlement) but lets hope Govt's now will be a little smarter. And maybe they are, judging by the termination of the South Island 'tenure review'. What a dumbRs rort that was. -
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Actually ... (and this could go on forever so lets not)
... there is a good case for giving 8 year olds the right to vote. -
heh heh heh ...
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Why is it the current ages that you think should be set in stone?
Why 16 and not 17? or 15?
I'm sorry, but when I think of a 16 y.o. voting I can't help but think of this guy
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Worse than a young voter would be a young voter that has been drinking.
Well there's a compromise I can live with! Lower the voting age and the drinking age to 16. But since we only get to vote once every 3 years they can only drink once every 3 years too.
It would make Election Day much more interesting. I can imagine the Sunday morning headlines: "Drunken Teens Vote 17 y.o. Boy Racer Into Parliament!" (I was going to say 'Pot Smoking Rasta' but ...)BTW - young people don't actually vote in significant numbers anyway, so lowering it to 16 won't change much.
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I just knew as I was writing my previous comment that it would be so! :-) (Hence my disclaimer)
Can you shed any further light on this requirement for flatmates/boarders? Do you have to find your own or do they assign one to you?! Sounds bizzare! And what about the rent/board they pay? Does that get added to your income? Reduce your Accommodation Supplement?
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Okay, well just answer the first part then:
if you lower the voting age to 16 then how do you argue that they're still not responsible enough to drink at 16? -
If I hadn't bought a house, I would have tried to stay with them forever!
Hmmm. So you had enough money to pay a deposit and meet the mortgage payments? Methinks [presuming you didn't win Lotto/inheritance] you should have been required to leave a State House at the point your income took you out of the person in need bracket. Sure, you may have been paying 'market rent' towards the end, but you know that would have still been well below actual market rent. Which is possibly how you were able to save that deposit?
That you would have "tried to stay with them forever!" speaks to my earlier comments about the sense of entitlement some tenants feel.
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Forget being able to pay taxes or marry (but only with your parents permission) at 16 ... if you're not considered responsible enough to drink alcohol until you're 18, then why should you be considered responsible enough to vote when you're 16?
And if you lower the voting age to 16 then how do you argue that they're still not responsible enough to drink at 16? You can't. So you'll have to lower the drinking age.
And the arguments will go on forever. Why can't under 18's sign their own legally binding contracts? If you give a 16 year old the right to vote then they should also have the right to sign up with Acme Personal Finance for a lifetime loan for that hot new WRX Turbo they've been coveting.