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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to Tinakori,

    Rugby ...recreational drug use . . ..professional performance

    Which for some reason reminded me of the Massey University rugby team known as the Ys, who during the early seventies only ever trained at the pub, discussing moves no doubt, and for whom a joint at half time often produced some inspired performances.
    Always entertaining.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    beneficiaries are not representative

    A definition of beneficiary may be helpful to the argument.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to mark taslov,

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    Robertson defending druggies absolutely works for the Nats.

    Take a quick look at the NBR reportage and particularly the comments to see how well Bill's comment is going down.
    A certain Farmer Brown made a brief attempt to balance the scales, but no go.
    Nobody is going near the evidence from psychology studies where marijuana was found to be a performance- enhancing drug for certain tasks involving hand- eye coordination.
    No wonder the cricket batsman found it useful.
    The problem is ignorance , and the disinformation being pushed in the schools.
    Until we teach that there is use and abuse, kids have no chance of learning the difference.
    If it is deemed to be all abuse, then we will continue on the present course.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I see no case law relating to the subject. The moot point is whether or not an employer in a safety sensitive industry, who does not want to drug test his employees, can be held liable if a drug related accident occurs.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to Moz,

    Yep. If he’ s not an outright arsehole , then he is stupid. He is shooting himself in the foot.
    You are right about there being no necessity for drug testing. The supervisor’s job is to look after the employee, whatever the problem. That means the supervisor must be a constant presence whenever an employee is working.It is just basic labour management. The Labour department used to teach this stuff.
    The basic rule was: if the employee has not learnt then the supervisor has not taught. It is the supervisor’s fault.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to John Farrell,

    That seems fair.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    The points that you make are quite valid, and that is why the share- farming system was prevalent in the dairy industry. The self - employed sharemilker is free to work as long and as hard as he likes.
    But solutions do exist where profitability is not limiting.
    We farm using a corporate structure, but might not be considered intensive by other players. We have never looked for employees: they come to us.
    We operate a nine on / five off roster, so a five day weekend twice per month is available for time off.
    The exigencies of the industry have always had to be addressed somehow: nature is an unforgiving mistress. The farm owner has to wear it personally if help is not available.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I don’t disagree with your statement, but every individual has the right to impose a blanket ban if he / she does not want the risk or the hassle. The pool of suitable labour to select from will be much smaller, but the right to be selective remains.
    The employer does not get to decide if there is a safety problem: the problem is presumed by OSH to exist if the industry is deemed safety sensitive.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to Moz,

    ng that the wages and conditions on dairy farms only attract the truly desperate

    That is no small exaggeration : it seems like a gross generalisation to me.

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  • Hard News: Drugs, testing and workplaces, in reply to Moz,

    The essence is contained in the compulsory employment contract which must contain the phrase - "the hours of work are such as shall be agreed from time to time between the parties".
    So it always goes both ways. And at the end of each casual employment session , the contract is concluded. A new casual session is a new contract. It works perfectly for both parties.

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